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  • St. Paul - Denver

    It seems that St. Paul is our preferred trading partner. I got Linty's ok on this one since I was not sure if the league allowed conditional trades... Linty is ok as long as Denver and St. Paul keep track of the conditional parts.

    Denver sends:

    LT Leiberforth

    St Paul sends:

    1st in 2020

    Conditionals:

    If St Paul's 1st in 2020 is 1.1-1.7:
    Denver also sends their 2nd in 2020,
    unless Denver's 2020 2nd is the 2.1-2.10, then Denver sends their 2nd and 4th in 2021

    If St Paul's 1st in 2020 is 1.8-1.13, Denver sends their 3rd in 2021

    If St Paul's 1st is 1.19-1.27, St Paul also includes their 3rd in 2021

    If St Paul's 1st is 1.28-1.32, St Paul also includes their 2nd in 2021.

    Thanks!

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    DONE.
    California Kodiaks - GM - 1982-2013
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    1986, 1987, 1989, 1999
    , 2000
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    • #3
      Erm... St. Paul did not agree yet... I'm pretty sure he is going to agree... But let's wait and see. ;-)

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      • #4
        Agreed.

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        • #5
          Wow.
          Float likeabutterflysting likeabee.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nutah View Post
            Wow.
            Too many conditions for you or are you surprised at how St Paul has turned themselves into a contender?

            It is funny because the whole thing started with Matt telling me that his 1st would be a top 10 pick, so he wanted something extra back in the deal besides the LT. But then I started looking at his team... and I thought he was underestimating himself. On the other hand, he does seem to be in a tough division. We'll see if I was right.

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            • #7
              No, too many conditions for me to keep track of. I'm trying to work on some conditions into trades myself...but damn! You guys really worked this down to a science ;)

              Matt had a really solid draft, combined with some good players (like his RB from last year). So I'm not expecting STP to be a pushover anyway. I'm actually very disappointed that someone decided to hand you another first round pick though.

              Dear everybody, Denver has enough picks in next year's draft :D Thanks!, - rest of Denver's division
              Float likeabutterflysting likeabee.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nutah View Post
                I'm actually very disappointed that someone decided to hand you another first round pick though.
                I actually find this league to be my toughest in terms of making trades. I don't know if that's because I don't know as many people here, people in this league don't wheel and deal or you guys are all too stingy... ;-)

                Anyhow, I don't need any more 1sts next season, two is enough. I just want to add some 4ths and 5ths. I absolutely love to talk trade, though. It is what gets me going in FOF.

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                • #9
                  If St Paul's 1st in 2020 is 1.1-1.7:
                  Denver also sends their 2nd in 2020,
                  unless Denver's 2020 2nd is the 2.1-2.10, then Denver sends their 2nd and 4th in 2021

                  If St Paul's 1st in 2020 is 1.8-1.13, Denver sends their 3rd in 2021



                  St. Paul will pick between 5th and 8th...Denver will pick between 9th and 12th.

                  If I had to guess based on opponents winning % as the tiebreaker I believe St. Paul will get the 6th pick...Denver will get the 10th pick...so I should get Denver's 2nd and 4th in 2021.

                  I'd rather have the 6th pick. Live and learn.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Matt View Post

                    If I had to guess based on opponents winning % as the tiebreaker I believe St. Paul will get the 6th pick...Denver will get the 10th pick...so I should get Denver's 2nd and 4th in 2021.
                    That's what it should be but I would not move the picks just yet. I have done this "pick estimating" for a few leagues now... And while it is generally accurate, for whatever reason it is not 100%. I could very easily get the 11th pick or something like that.

                    Especially out of the 1st round... In the event of a tie, if I get the higher pick in the 1st round I will likely get the lower pick in the 2nd round.

                    I'd rather have the 6th pick. Live and learn.
                    Well, yes, depending on the draft class it could be a very good trade for me. On the other hand, you got very good value from me in the Inoue trade - at least by my estimation. You win some, you lose some... And I still maintain that you have a solid team. There was no way I expected to get the 6th overall pick from this transaction.

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                    • #11
                      looks like you got the 5th pick (from st paul) damnit, im drafting 7th and youre 2 spots ahead IIRC i was just looking at it last night.
                      Last edited by strickzilla; 06-03-2011, 02:49 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by strickzilla View Post
                        looks like you got the 5th pick (from st paul) damnit, im drafting 7th and youre 2 spots ahead IIRC i was just looking at it last night.
                        Even better! I swear I looked and saw St Paul with the 6th pick, though. Anyhow, we won't know officially until the season is over.

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                        • #13
                          Looks like St. Paul is getting Denver's 2nd and 4th in 2021.

                          Enjoy that #6 pick!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Matt View Post

                            Enjoy that #6 pick!
                            Thanks. I am sure I will blow it.

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                            • #15
                              Brad...not sure if this can be done ingame now so I don't forget. StP gets Den 2nd/4th next draft.

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