Maurice Reader - I want to move him. Today.

[PhantomLord]

Guys,

I have gotten a lot of offers on Reader, but none have quite done it for me. This guy is a 60/60 WR with good all around skills, is the 9th best WR in the OSFL, is a mentor, and is only a 6 year vet. He has a good 3 or 4 years in him before he starts declining, so he is pretty freaking valuable in my opinion.

I want to move him before preseason starts so I can get my lineup set and not make changes once it begins. I've told a lot of you this, but I want a first round pick for Reader.

That's what it's going to take. No more bullshitting and offering/counter-offering. It's going to take a first round pick for me to move Reader, so if you want him you know what to do. I'll even throw in a 4th round pick in the 07 draft with Reader.

[Clay]

1st Rounder for a 60/60 WR!?!?!?!? Wow! You need Matt Millen's Cell number.

[PhantomLord]

1st Rounder for a 60/60 WR!?!?!?!? Wow! You need Matt Millen's Cell number.

Read his info. I'm not giving up a top 10 WR for anything less.

You think someone like Roy Williams in the NFL would go for under a 1st round pick? Chad Johnson? Marvin Harrison? Guys that are in the top 10 in the NFL would not get traded for a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

I'm going off the overall skill level in our league. He's the 9th best WR in the entire OSFL.

[Sully]

Terrell Owens didn't fetch a 1st rounder when the Niners traded him a few years ago. I believe they got a 5th, and DE Brandon Whiting. I'm not saying that Reader isn't worth more, but a 1st rounder is a little steep. As for my team's position, we're likely to struggle this year, so my first rounder holds great value. Much more than a 60/60 6th year WR.

[PhantomLord]

Terrell Owens didn't fetch a 1st rounder when the Niners traded him a few years ago. I believe they got a 5th, and DE Brandon Whiting. I'm not saying that Reader isn't worth more, but a 1st rounder is a little steep. As for my team's position, we're likely to struggle this year, so my first rounder holds great value. Much more than a 60/60 6th year WR.

Fair enough. I'm expecting the only people who would pay a 1st for him is a team that knows they are a top contender and who could use a good WR to solidify that.

I suppose, if it's from a lower-level team, I would take a 2nd rounder for him.

[Pat]

Shaun Alexander and Edgerrin James weren't being traded for first round picks just a few years ago.

I think your asking price is too high as well.

[Sully]

In his defense, there's no harm in starting with a high asking price. If nobody bites, then he can adjust.

[Clay]

Bingo! Name the last NFL player traded straight up for a 1st Round pick.

[Clay]

In his defense, there's no harm in starting with a high asking price. If nobody bites, then he can adjust.

Understandable, but he made it very clear that that was the asking price and "No more bullshitting and offering/counter-offering." Totally understand the jumping off point philosophy, but I don't think that's what's at play here.

[Sully]

In his defense, there's no harm in starting with a high asking price. If nobody bites, then he can adjust.

Understandable, but he made it very clear that that was the asking price and "No more bullshitting and offering/counter-offering." Totally understand the jumping off point philosophy, but I don't think that's what's at play here.

Good point.

[PhantomLord]

Well, I already changed and said a 2nd might be okay, so apparently I wasn't as cut and dry as I even thought in the first post.

[PhantomLord]

Plus, have you people not played this game very much?

Unless you have a top 5 or 10 pick, you aren't going to get a player anywhere NEAR Reader's caliber. You might get someone with a 30/75, but once you drop inot around pick 20 or 25 you will be lucky to get a guy with 65 potential.

Also, just edited the original post. Offering a pick with Reader.

[Pat]

From your season preview...

"#2. North Liberty - Worst offense in the league, best defense in the league"

Worst offense in the league, so you are ditching on your WR?

[PhantomLord]

From your season preview...

"#2. North Liberty - Worst offense in the league, best defense in the league"

Worst offense in the league, so you are ditching on your WR?

He wants too much money. He'll be ready to retire by the time I get a good QB in place and somewhat developed. I want more draft picks.

Seems pretty simple. The offense will suck ass with or without him.

[Bigsmooth]

Bingo! Name the last NFL player traded straight up for a 1st Round pick.

Deion Branch.