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  • #16
    FA Rookies

    I think our caps are fine and I also like our FA Restrictions, however I think regular free agent rules should apply to FA rookies, how would that be any different. 1 year 2 mil or 2 year 4 mil, then after that go at it.
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    • #17
      I'd be more in favor of a cap reduction than policing FA2. You had a shot at the rookies in the draft, I don't see the point in making more work for Brad. At this point I want to get past FA and into the game again. I mean, FA2 is only 3 sims, so if there's some bad contracts being placed there's really not any time to police them and I'm definitely not in favor of extending FA2.
      Last edited by garion333; 05-23-2012, 10:35 AM.

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      • #18
        I don't think there need to be any other restrictions in FA2. There is no good reason to do it. If you are going to give a guy a 1 year deal worth all your remaining cap room, then so be it.

        At this stage in the game all that is available are guys who A: Weren't enticing enough to be signed as an FA or B: Weren't enticing enough to be drafted in 7 rounds.

        These are scrap heap guys, and very few of them are ever worth a multi year deal. The amount we pay them doesn't matter either because cap room doesn't carry over to next season. Use it or lose it. Now if it affected the morale of the rest of the team to see an UDFA get big bucks, this would be a different story, but it would govern itself in that instance as well.

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        • #19
          Cap reduction I would be ok with if that were to come about however. Phase it in 5% at a time til we get to 25%.

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          • #20
            I disagree that Brad would have to do any more work ppl can police themselfs and Undrafted rookies in real life get a base salary anyway and since there are gem regular rules should apply, lowering the cap is pointless since stadium pricing rises and so does salaries...maybe makiing the cap stay in place for a few years instead of gradually increasing might help
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            • #21
              The whole point of the $2/$4 million rule was so Brad wouldn't have to do as much work as he did last year. Any additional restrictions creates more work for him. Yes, we can police ourselves, but we're not perfect. Have you seen the mess we've made of trades this year? lol

              A reduced salary cap is a pretty typical thing in FOF mp leagues. It helps alleviate dynasties by forcing you to make choices on veterans. Yes, salaries and stadium prices do rise, but so does the salary cap. All the a reduction does is lower the high end, so instead of $190 mil next year, it's $150 mil. The next year it'd be $160 mil instead of $200 mil. Everything still goes up, it's not freezing the salary cap, just reducing it.

              The point of an incremental increase in cap reduction is so we can ease into it. People would be in all sorts of cap trouble if we suddenly dropped the cap by 25%. That would be unfair to those teams. Make sense?

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              • #22
                No incremental decreases does make sense, but I don't think decreasing the salary cap is the solution to a problem of a rookie punter getting 1 year 14 million..if we have rules for FA signings it would only make sense to extend those rules to FA2...then if he wanted to give the punter 3 yr 100 mil no one would care. As far as the cap is concerned I don't know about other teams but I traded my QB in the off season to free up money to sign ppl, so I'm close to cap as it is and all contracts gradually increase over time.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ryan503 View Post
                  No incremental decreases does make sense, but I don't think decreasing the salary cap is the solution to a problem of a rookie punter getting 1 year 14 million..if we have rules for FA signings it would only make sense to extend those rules to FA2...then if he wanted to give the punter 3 yr 100 mil no one would care. As far as the cap is concerned I don't know about other teams but I traded my QB in the off season to free up money to sign ppl, so I'm close to cap as it is and all contracts gradually increase over time.
                  Then no one can sign role players at min salary, which is also unrealistic. A 15 year vet kept around for his locker room value wouldn't get a 3 year contract with a signing bonus.

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                  • #24
                    I'm as immersionist as it comes, but I don't see why it's a big deal that the punter signs such a deal. If you have the money to spend, spend it. That's the first, best adjustment to make from football thinking to FOF thinking.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Jughead Spock View Post
                      I'm as immersionist as it comes, but I don't see why it's a big deal that the punter signs such a deal. If you have the money to spend, spend it. That's the first, best adjustment to make from football thinking to FOF thinking.
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                      • #26
                        FWIW, I think the cap space gets way too high for long lasting leagues like this. I think a heavily reduced cap is the only way to control this type of spending in a long term way, but if I've still got more cap room than anybody else and I want a stud I missed in the draft then I would still pay over the odds for him.
                        How many people on here are loaded with enough talent but still able to pay $12m for a punter? What is the point of having unused cap space
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                        • #27
                          I do bidding and estimating for my job. It's up to the owner's to make sure money is not left on the table. If you want the players pay the premiums. You can always cut him later to juggle the numbers. Always remember to include a contingency plan if player A doesn't pan out.
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