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  • #16
    Originally posted by BradZ View Post
    Correct.
    Just to avoid confusion, but the rule does not currently have anything to do with what a player is asking.

    How about if what the person is asking for is greater than $5 mil/yr then you have to offer at least 3 years?
    ^ That was a suggestion. But right now it is only that to make a legal offer of under 3 years, the total amount of compensation per year must be less than or equal to $5 million. Whether or not the player asks for more.
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    • #17
      So what is going on here?

      I uploaded my file last night with the rules Brad had said, but will be unable to upload today before the sim if I have to go back and change anything.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Plastic View Post
        So what is going on here?

        I uploaded my file last night with the rules Brad had said, but will be unable to upload today before the sim if I have to go back and change anything.
        You're good. For better or for worse.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by BradZ View Post
          You're good. For better or for worse.
          Ok Thanks Brad.
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          • #20
            I suspect most of the contracts you voided last year were for A.I. teams. Those teams should not have fallen under the 3 year rule, only human owned teams should.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JulioRiddols View Post
              I suspect most of the contracts you voided last year were for A.I. teams. Those teams should not have fallen under the 3 year rule, only human owned teams should.
              The majority of them were from human run teams.
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              Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
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              • #22
                So maybe we should use this rule say in FA1:7 and later, since most of the "better" players have signed their deals by then.

                Now if someone wants to fill their roster, they would be able to sign guys to 1 or 2 years deals, instead of having to wait for FA2:1-5 to roll around.

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                • #23
                  I'm a new guy, so I won't interject too much, but I don't understand how making more complicated rules will reduce the number of violations of this simple rule. I'm confused.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Dutch View Post
                    I'm a new guy, so I won't interject too much, but I don't understand how making more complicated rules will reduce the number of violations of this simple rule. I'm confused.





                    *cough* grey sheet *cough*

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Rip Murdock View Post
                      2. What happened to discussion and voting?

                      Last season the league had a good discussion about the 3 year rule and then voted. It was a good, healthy process. Why not do the same here? Why rush this? If the commish wants to change the rule, then let's talk about it first. Then we could discover the rule's flaws before implementing it.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by strickzilla View Post
                        *cough* grey sheet *cough*
                        A rule where you may have to manually double-check a player against an unsearchable, unsortable list that isn't just even solely dependent on FA player grade, is simpler than one where you just have to offer everybody three years?

                        anyway, enough about that -- it is nice to offer marginal FAs shorter deals and save that thirty to couple hundred K in bonus. I appreciate Brad thinking of a way to get to that. Just hope the unintended side effects are not too bad.
                        Last edited by Aston; 02-22-2012, 03:38 AM.
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                        • #27
                          Lesson learned for sure. No more last second unilateral rule implementations.

                          For now, I will contend, the issue at hand isn't as dire as some may fear. Nutah's example of the DT that took a 1 yr $5mil salary only deal is a good study. Knowing that the most extreme 1 yr contract any team can possibly offer a FA is the 1 for $5mil is very handy information. It's simple enough to structure your own deal in a way to overcome that offer.

                          I do wish, however, that I had set the thresholds a bit lower (something in the 1 for $2mil|2 for $4mil probably would have been better).
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                          Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BradZ View Post

                            I do wish, however, that I had set the thresholds a bit lower (something in the 1 for $2mil|2 for $4mil probably would have been better).
                            This I could go with for sure. Then you have your marginal players signing for marginal money while there is risk involved in signing a better quality guy.

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                            • #29
                              Lesson learned for sure. No more last second unilateral rule implementations.
                              I'll add to the drumbeat of support for you, from what I've seen, I think you are a great commish and this comment just adds to your street cred. :)
                              New Orleans Stingrays GM

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                              • #30
                                Agreed.

                                Great job on everything Brad. There was no malice aforethought with your plan. We'll fix it up this year and move on. Now onto the draft!

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