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  • A Trip Around New England

    My Guides have three minor league clubs around New England:

    1. The AAA Atlantics in Portsmouth, New Hampshire
    2. The AA Islanders of Bar Harbor, Maine
    3. The single-A Grays of Barre, Vermont

    I think it's safe to say that I obsess over the minor league clubs in my organization as much as just about anybody, and I've been this obsessive for a while.

    I thought I'd make a running thread sharing updates along with my approach.

    The former might interest my few fellow minor league aficionados.

    The latter could help newer GMs and also give the veterans a chance to tell me why I'm an idiot. Who could resist?

    General Minor League Philosophy:

    I abide by a few key principles that I try to make as evidenced-based as possible.

    I. I consider the primary goal of the minor leagues to be the development of players who could help my BLB club someday. This has a couple important implications.

    1. If there is essentially zero chance a young player will ever make it to the BLB, he does not have a spot in my organization. If OSA or my scout or stats say a player is utter rubbish, then there's no point in having him because he's taking an opportunity away from someone who maybe does have a chance. (Corollary: If a player is too old to play at a level of the minor league that suits his performance or ratings, then he falls into that category nine times out of ten.)

    In short, if the point is to use the minor leagues to develop potential BLB talent, then it makes sense to use your minor league roster spots on guys who could actually develop into BLB talent. That 31 year old with the 4.00 ERA at AA is taking up a spot a genuine prospect could have. Also, you have roster spots. Use all of them!

    2. Okay, so the first assumption — that a prospect could develop into a BLB player someday — is out of the way. The next step is asking the question, "If he did develop into a BLB player, what type of player would he be?"

    I'll give some examples.

    (Underlined is a hyperlink.)

    J.J. Walker is someone I drafted in the tenth round in 2014. He's a college third baseman. He probably isn't a good enough prospect to have a legitimate chance at a starting third base job. And a bench player who can only play third base doesn't offer much versatility. Then it follows that his best chance at making it would be becoming more versatile. He has the defensive chops to play outfield. So I've been teaching him how to play first base (got it down) and the corner outfield positions (getting there).

    Erik Blake is someone else at AA I've been working with. When I acquired him, he was a young second baseman. Now, I already have Jarrod Rowles at second, and he's only a bit older than Blake. This fact, along with Blake's solid but not amazing bat, mean he might be better suited not as a pure second baseman, but as someone who can play on the left side of the infield, too. So he's been learning to play shortstop (and doing well) and he might get some reps at third base soon, too. By becoming more competent at additional positions, he opens up more opportunities where he could make it to the BLB, whether it's as a starting shortstop or a utility infielder who plays all three spots.

    Bottom line: Try to envision what opportunities could take your prospect to the BLB someday, and do your best to support him in having those opportunities.

    II. There is a connection between morale, performance, and player development.

    I don't know exactly what the mechanism is, but I've found that players develop best when they're receiving regular playing time and being appropriately challenged.

    Morale and performance are linked, so trying to support a player feeling good and playing well makes sense.

    Tips for keeping a guy feeling good and playing well:

    1. A positive, winning club helps. If you can put together a minor league group that has a bunch of smart, unselfish players who work hard and win games, it creates a good environment for your players to develop.

    2. If a player is struggling at the plate, now is a bad time to try to teach him a new position. It's too much stress and too much work. I usually wait until a player has proven himself a competent hitter at his current level before I attempt to play him at a brand new position.

    3. Keep an eye on a player's current ratings. The potentials aren't the only ones that matter. If you have a hitter with 3/2/2/2/3 ratings, he's probably not ready to play everyday, even at single-A. Bring him along slowly.

    4. Put players in positions where they can be successful. If a left-handed batter is really struggling versus left-handed pitchers, think about giving him a break and starting him full-time only against right-handed pitchers.

    More to come as I think of it.

    Regular minor league updates to follow.

    Other people, feel free to post with your ideas.
    Last edited by Z; 09-24-2016, 03:36 PM.
    Maine Guides
    General Manager: 1994-2032, 2049-Pres.
    Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
    Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
    Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
    8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
    30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

  • #2
    Have you ever tried developing a pitcher as a hitter or vice versa?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BDub View Post
      Have you ever tried developing a pitcher as a hitter or vice versa?
      I have tried.

      I don't have a real success story yet.

      My last attempt was turning former California and Toronto outfielder Robby Culler into a relief pitcher at age 33 in 2011.

      He ended up pitching well at AAA, even notching 21 saves while posting a 2.48 ERA.

      I don't remember what reason I had for not promoting him. If I remember correctly, he had something like 6/6/4 ratings as a pitcher.
      Maine Guides
      General Manager: 1994-2032, 2049-Pres.
      Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
      Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
      Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
      8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
      30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post
        I have tried.

        I don't have a real success story yet.

        My last attempt was turning former California and Toronto outfielder Robby Culler into a relief pitcher at age 33 in 2011.

        He ended up pitching well at AAA, even notching 21 saves while posting a 2.48 ERA.

        I don't remember what reason I had for not promoting him. If I remember correctly, he had something like 6/6/4 ratings as a pitcher.
        Actually, I will correct myself.

        I did promote Culler.

        He made three BLB appearances, pitching four innings and surrendering five runs for an 11.25 ERA.
        Maine Guides
        General Manager: 1994-2032, 2049-Pres.
        Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
        Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
        Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
        8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
        30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

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        • #5
          Really interesting, we have a very similar approach for the minor league teams.

          I only add one point here, and is that I surround my gems with players with talent whom might not have a chance at the BLB level, or they dropped from my BLB team (AAA) and still under contract, to win games, they win, they are happy, they are happy, they develop properly (more often than not)

          I will learn what you said about not teaching a proper position until they bat properly at that level :)

          What are the "Cut-offs" age that you use?

          I use 24 (obvious) for A players, even AA players who don´t perform, then 26 for AAA players or for players who never got there...
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          • #6
            Stephen Davis was my SS to RP success story.

            Until Funclown took him in Rule 5.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Delandis View Post
              Stephen Davis was my SS to RP success story.

              Until Funclown took him in Rule 5.
              Bring back the Rule V!

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              • #8
                Good stuff, Z!

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                • #9
                  A few things to watch around New England...

                  * At AAA, Linus Robb is the most important player in a new situation. The 25 year old is a former undrafted free agent out of Duke University in 2014 and who lit opposing pitchers on fire during his minor league career. He's an average corner outfield defender and a superior defensive first baseman. This year, he's hitting .318 with a .433 OBP in his first season at AAA while gaining experience at third base. If he could play passable defense there, he could be a really interesting right-handed versatile player for us in the BLB. While scouts don't love him, it's hard to argue with his minor league (and college) production.

                  * AAA SP Micah Marn has great character and is another former undrafted free agent who's had a stellar minor league career. The 24 year old notably made a name for himself last year when, in his six starts at AAA, he went 6-0 with a 0.40 ERA. He's settled into more average numbers this year, but he's still talented and someone to keep an eye on for a possible BLB call-up in the next year or two.

                  * Last year's #8 overall pick Zachary Smith continues to learn right field at single-A. The 18 year old has a .299 batting average across his calendar year + at A-ball as he becomes more comfortable with a regular outfield job. With more outfield experience, he could skyrocket through the minor leagues.

                  * 2016 #18 overall pick LHP A.J. Clauss has been an interesting case. OSA has dropped his potential ratings from 6/6/5 on draft day to 5/6/4 today. Our scouting staff still likes him quite a bit though, and he made the AA All-Star team at age 22 this year, as he has a 2.13 ERA at the level. The biggest discrepancy between OSA and our scouts concerns Clauss's control. OSA thinks he's below-average now; our scouting staff thinks he has above-average control. It's a rare two-point gap between the two sources. Who's right? I'm hoping my guys. We'll see.
                  Last edited by Z; 09-24-2016, 09:00 PM.
                  Maine Guides
                  General Manager: 1994-2032, 2049-Pres.
                  Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
                  Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
                  Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
                  8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
                  30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BDub View Post
                    Have you ever tried developing a pitcher as a hitter or vice versa?
                    The best one I ever converted currently plays for your team Alex Otero...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Delandis View Post
                      Stephen Davis was my SS to RP success story.

                      Until Funclown took him in Rule 5.
                      I loved your minor leagues. I can't even remember how many times I raided thru a Rule V or went the one mans trash route.
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                      Wildcard 91, 95, 12


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by funclown View Post
                        I loved your minor leagues. I can't even remember how many times I raided thru a Rule V or went the one mans trash route.
                        Speaking of the one man's trash route, I looked at Pat's AAA club the other day and he had around ten guys who used to play for me.
                        Maine Guides
                        General Manager: 1994-2032, 2049-Pres.
                        Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
                        Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
                        Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
                        8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
                        30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post
                          Speaking of the one man's trash route, I looked at Pat's AAA club the other day and he had around ten guys who used to play for me.
                          They won the Triple-A Championship last year.
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                          • #14
                            * Really tough injury for the #18 overall pick two years ago, starting pitcher A.J. Clauss. He had just earned a promotion to AAA, where he posted a 1.65 ERA in three starts. Alas, shoulder inflammation will sideline him for the remainder of 2018.

                            * As mentioned earlier, Linus Robb continues to play third base at AAA, where he has an .864 OPS. He's finally up to a 3 position rating at third base. A September call-up is probably in his future.

                            * 2013 #23 overall pick P Micah York has had a strong showing pitching out of the bullpen in his first year at AAA. The 22 year old has a 2.41 ERA there and is striking out 8.6 batters per nine innings. He hasn't allowed a home run in 33 2/3 innings this season. His long-term future might be in the pen, but it looks likely he'll get a chance to start games at AAA next year and see how he does.
                            Maine Guides
                            General Manager: 1994-2032, 2049-Pres.
                            Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
                            Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
                            Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
                            8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
                            30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post
                              * As mentioned earlier, Linus Robb continues to play third base at AAA, where he has an .864 OPS. He's finally up to a 3 position rating at third base. A September call-up is probably in his future.
                              Robb currently ranks as the 3rd best hitter in Triple-A.
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                              Seattle Pilots- 2017-2041
                              Washington Bats - 1979-2013

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