2009 BLB Amateur Draft Beginning Monday 11/24

[Delandis]

It's tough to compare because there's six times the rounds and 2 times the minor league levels.

But the top end talent should still be comparable, right?

[BDub]

To my RL baseball guys, are drafts normally very transparent? Is there usually a big drop off in talent more like what we are seeing now vs. what we have seen in the past inOOTP?

In general, its very hard to break into the ML level in the MLB. In this instance, the game does a good job at making the draft realistic. Often times, there isnt gonna be a slew of players thought to be solid ML talent. You can only hope your pick will turn into something special. I look at the draft picks more like lottery tickets. Hopefully I can cash in on a few.

[Matt]

I suggest next year we let Markus take a look at the class and tell Matt or Brad if he sees anything off, assuming the class is just as awful. Maybe Markus can shed some light.

I know the classes are supposed to be weaker at first look in 14 but we don't have enough years with these guys to know for sure if that's the case.

I'm not sure what could be off. In the OOTP 14 manual it suggests that the number of rounds in the draft equals minors multiplied by 5, which would be 15. We have the draft set up for 10 rounds, enough players for 15. This year we didn't have any created players, or what we refer to as Internationals, because the feeders provided enough. Usually we have between 15-60. I think it's a down year combined with OOTP 14 having weaker draft classes (from what I've read).

I've been in the league for 25+ seasons now. I was always used to seeing big potential ratings which I knew would drop, or level off. Maybe now with '14 it's about seeing normal ratings rise, and you have to be more perceptive about OSA ratings and more importantly feeder league statistics.

[Carlos]

I agree with the latter.

We used to get a lot of these 7 potential contact guys that would drop off a cliff into a 4 or worse.

Morgantown drafted one of those guys first overall. I took Danny Hernandez one year off the same opinion.

Now it seems like there's more to seeing a guy develop.

That's why I took Potter. He has great pitch ratings, stamina and stuff. Maybe his control improves overtime. Or maybe it doesn't. I feel as if the improvement part of it is more likely with the 14 draft classes, rather than seeing a guy crash and burn.

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[funclown]

I posted this a while back in this thread. There is a lot of talent getting no HS development time.

To me this is my biggest worry. Kids need playing time to bump the ratings. If we aren't going to get Intl players, lets least have the kids play!!! I've never seen so many kids like this. Even Intl kids has a 'sampling'. Perhaps we need to drop the roster sizes and add more teams so we can get the kids some playing time???

Just an example. Look at the #10 draft pick and notice the sharp drop in at bats after the 2006 season.

http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/blb/...ayer_6371.html

[funclown]

And I still think that even if the classes are bad, these players will eventually be just as good as the rest of the competition if every following class has similar ratings.



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I do think this is true. They may just start off weaker. Case in point last season only 2 hitters debuted. I'm sure more will eventually make they're way on there, but the game will come up with lucky dice rolls perhaps with later round players???

[umd]

I think there's a little bit of instant gratification from a draft creeping in here as well. If you're drafting 17-18 year olds, you need to be patient enough to let them play 3-4 seasons of A ball and be prepared for them to have 5.00 ERA or bat .150 for 2 seasons. Even then, without the stats or ratings bumps, it might be wise to keep them down even longer than that.

With patience, many of these HS guys do creep into and up the Top Prospects lists. In the past, they've mostly been 3rd and 4th round types. Now it's looking more like they're going higher because of the lack of college/amateur league superstars being pumped out so blatantly obvious.

[funclown]

I think there's a little bit of instant gratification from a draft creeping in here as well. If you're drafting 17-18 year olds, you need to be patient enough to let them play 3-4 seasons of A ball and be prepared for them to have 5.00 ERA or bat .150 for 2 seasons. Even then, without the stats or ratings bumps, it might be wise to keep them down even longer than that.

With patience, many of these HS guys do creep into and up the Top Prospects lists. In the past, they've mostly been 3rd and 4th round types. Now it's looking more like they're going higher because of the lack of college/amateur league superstars being pumped out so blatantly obvious.

I kind see that, but have you seen how many kids have never pitched an inning or didn't even have at at bat?? Now your a drafting in the real world, why on earth would you draft a kid who's never played?? Do you base this on his practices???

I'll grab this off my warboard cuz I'm not ingame, but just one of many examples:

http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/blb/...ayer_5828.html

[Jistic]

The feeders are just broken. Have been for a few years now. We used to be albe to draft into the late first round and at least have a potential starting position player available. Not a start but some 5's and 6's.

Now that player would be the 1st or 2nd hitter drafted overall.

Is this better in OOTP15?

[mike]

The second round pick that Pitt received from Syracuse was his highest pick per PM's. I believe that was number 26, it's still listed as syracuse.

[Matt]

The feeders are just broken. Have been for a few years now. We used to be albe to draft into the late first round and at least have a potential starting position player available. Not a start but some 5's and 6's.

Now that player would be the 1st or 2nd hitter drafted overall.

Is this better in OOTP15?

Feeder leagues in OOTP 15 have been improved. From the new feature list:

- Added option to add full default feeder league system to a league, which calculates the number of feeder leagues / teams needed to function properly
- Added new option to define when players in feeder leagues are draft-eligible (relative to maximum age)
- Added new option to base AI lineup / pitching staff decisions either on potential or current ability, which is useful for feeder leagues

[Matt]

The second round pick that Pitt received from Syracuse was his highest pick per PM's. I believe that was number 26, it's still listed as syracuse.

Unless Jake says otherwise the trade says Syracuse' 2nd rounder. Which would be 2.18, or #42 which is yours. Sorry not really sure what to do.

Pittsburgh receives:

C Ruben Luna
2009 SYR 2nd Round
2010 SYR 3rd Round

Syracuse Receives:
OF Danny Gomez (AAA)
1B Jamie Monson (MLB)
SP Shane Carroll (MLB)
3B Willie Tristan (AAA)
C Jimmy Scherer (MLB)

[funclown]

As has been the case the past few season, Pawtucket turns to the high school ranks with one if its 1st rounders:

C Norm Deiwert

http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/blb/...ayer_7295.html

Now...MY scout has this crazy guy POT at 4-6-8-3-5.

Looking at his stats he looks like he can hit for power/ average even draws a few walks.

18 years old so he can join my other two high school prospects who are ranked and see if they can help him along.

[Matt]

Of course you take the guy I wanted on my list of 1. OSA loves him, great stats...everything we talked about.

[funclown]

Of course you take the guy I wanted on my list of 1. OSA loves him, great stats...everything we talked about.

Blame Pat for taking for taking my kid.