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  • #46
    So where does the - $21 mil go if there is no carry over?

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    • #47
      The same land where Pittsburgh is the team to beat in the DL. La la land.
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      Syracuse Slammers - BLB
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Jake View Post
        The same land where Pittsburgh is the team to beat in the DL. La la land.
        Syracuse is a sinking ship, and your three best players just jumped overboard.
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        8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
        30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

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        • #49
          Baltimore may concede the division to Batavia. Everyone sees the Wallace injury but bigger than that was Lonnie Grady's injury. Not good. Not good at all.


          Baltimore Bulldogs - BLB since '84
          - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
          - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
          - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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          • #50
            Originally posted by elprez98 View Post
            Baltimore may concede the division to Batavia. Everyone sees the Wallace injury but bigger than that was Lonnie Grady's injury. Not good. Not good at all.
            I only dream I could win the division. I'm not even safe for the wild card. I have Washington, Philly, L.A., and even Windy City and Morgantown coming up fast. I'm stressed already.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by BradZ View Post
              It's exactly the kind of transaction I thought we would start seeing more of. Cap space itself becomes somewhat of a currency in a Hard Cap world. Also, with the $10mil max cash carryover you run into a lot of teams that face huge cash balances at the end of the year that they can either lose for nothing or get some "value" out of. .
              $10 million? When did this change? When we added the cap? I just had to reference the newly updated rules to make sure this wasn't a typo. I think even today at lunch I said something to you about losing anything over $20.0 and you didn't say anything....maybe you didn't hear me?

              Speaking of cash...for anyone who has cash left over, when do they apply that to their stadium fund...before or after it's reduced to $10.0?
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              • #52
                I want a BLB friend to talk strategy with over lunch. And Pat being in the back of my car doesn't count.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Jake View Post
                  You type like Mavis Beacon on that mobile device.
                  I had to look that up. I am pleased.


                  In BLB news (because I'm beginning to love this kid):

                  Danny Gutierrez - the combo player - is doing things in Oklahoma (AA).

                  Last week he pitched in 2 games, throwing 2 innings, walking one batter and striking out 3. He gave up one hit and no runs. Boom.

                  He also stepped in as a hitter, playing RF and went 2-3 with a triple, RBI, run scored, a walk and a strikeout. He committed an error in the field.

                  In one other game he pinch ran and played 2B for the last two innings.

                  Ladies and Gentlemen, Danny Gutierrez, combo player. He hits, fields and throws a 93-mph fastball.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Matt View Post
                    So where does the - $21 mil go if there is no carry over?
                    From what we know - no where.

                    It'll make the owner angry at the end of the year (but we don't face being fired so does this really matter?). It may, but we cannot be certain, cut budget for next season.

                    Otherwise, the money is essentially eaten by something, but ceases to exist in the financial world after the calendar turns.

                    I respect LA's move because it is a smart one. But again, we are entering dangerous territory if we allow these moves to happen and there is no harm in-game.

                    Otherwise, I wouldn't have shipped out three of my prospects just to dump Romo's contract.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Carlos View Post
                      From what we know - no where.

                      It'll make the owner angry at the end of the year (but we don't face being fired so does this really matter?). It may, but we cannot be certain, cut budget for next season.

                      Otherwise, the money is essentially eaten by something, but ceases to exist in the financial world after the calendar turns.

                      I respect LA's move because it is a smart one. But again, we are entering dangerous territory if we allow these moves to happen and there is no harm in-game.

                      Otherwise, I wouldn't have shipped out three of my prospects just to dump Romo's contract.
                      The easiest solution in this case, since the tranasaction has already occurred, is to manually edit the Bandits' beginning balance next season to the true end of year balance he's left with at the end of this season. That way he is forced to carry over the true amount of debt incurred for dumping the bad contract. It will limit his ability to perform certain transactions next season (FA, trades, extensions, etc.) until he his able to financially dig out of the hole that was created.

                      For future transactions, we should probably take a look at some guidelines dealing with player buyouts.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Jim View Post
                        $10 million? When did this change? When we added the cap? I just had to reference the newly updated rules to make sure this wasn't a typo. I think even today at lunch I said something to you about losing anything over $20.0 and you didn't say anything....maybe you didn't hear me?

                        Speaking of cash...for anyone who has cash left over, when do they apply that to their stadium fund...before or after it's reduced to $10.0?
                        I remember you making the comment, but my brain must have filtered out the erroneous figure and heard the correct number instead. Yeah, this change took place when the cap came into existence.
                        Philly Freedom
                        Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
                        Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
                        Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
                        IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
                        Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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                        • #57
                          Well, let's not pretend that financial irresponsibility and dead money is new to the cap era. A lot... A LOT of Owners around here the last 3-5 years have been haphazardly firing coaches and replacing them with new, higher quality ones that come along. Now, that money has never "counted" against us... however... it falls firmly in the "vanishing financials" category.

                          Owners (SGN) who spend over $100.0 + CASH may be penalized by their Owners (In-Game). We don't know exactly how and if that will happen. Unfortunately, this is another one of those things that I feel falls firmly on "best interest of the league" and our "gentlemen's agreement" on how things operate. To be honest, anyone DUMPING a contract, should really be talking to the league before they do it to make sure they are OK from a financial standpoint. I can't personally watch the TRANSACTION WIRE and catch these things and, by the time I do, it's usually too late.

                          I'm not saying L.A. did anything wrong, just saying, I can't police everything... especially if I don't see it. I think even with the Dean contract, L.A. is still under $100.00 for the season + CASH.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Clay View Post
                            Well, let's not pretend that financial irresponsibility and dead money is new to the cap era. A lot... A LOT of Owners around here the last 3-5 years have been haphazardly firing coaches and replacing them with new, higher quality ones that come along. Now, that money has never "counted" against us... however... it falls firmly in the "vanishing financials" category.

                            Owners (SGN) who spend over $100.0 + CASH may be penalized by their Owners (In-Game). We don't know exactly how and if that will happen. Unfortunately, this is another one of those things that I feel falls firmly on "best interest of the league" and our "gentlemen's agreement" on how things operate. To be honest, anyone DUMPING a contract, should really be talking to the league before they do it to make sure they are OK from a financial standpoint. I can't personally watch the TRANSACTION WIRE and catch these things and, by the time I do, it's usually too late.

                            I'm not saying L.A. did anything wrong, just saying, I can't police everything... especially if I don't see it. I think even with the Dean contract, L.A. is still under $100.00 for the season + CASH.
                            I may not be remembering this correctly, but I thought those teams that went through coaching changes did so within the contraints of their cash flow/budgeted amounts? Meaning, by the end of the year they were not so negative that some amount just got swept away so they were still ultimately responsible for both figures, fired coaches and new hires. That's perfectly legitimate, just as there can be legitimate dumping of contracts (full negative impact of dumped contract being felt). If we can make sure the dumping team has to deal with the full ramifications of the move, then the financial model should still be intact.

                            The biggest issue would be if an owner left immediately after engaging in deals that left the team in financial ruin, but I don't see that as being a huge issue.
                            Philly Freedom
                            Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
                            Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
                            Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
                            IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
                            Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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                            • #59
                              No, Staff expenses have never been factored into our financial equation... even when we were doing penalties for profitability.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Clay View Post
                                No, Staff expenses have never been factored into our financial equation... even when we were doing penalties for profitability.
                                But they are factored into the end of year balance which carries over up to a limit.
                                Philly Freedom
                                Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
                                Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
                                Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
                                IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
                                Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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