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  • #16
    I'm going to take some time before submitting a final ballot, but here's where I'm at now, for the sake of discussion. I'll start with the hitters.

    Pedro Eires -- Home run king with two excellent seasons, two other above average seasons, and not much else. For a guy who entered the inaugural season at age 27, you need more than that.

    Carel Fonkert - Very good hitting catcher who quietly had a very nice career, but was almost always overshadowed by other catches. Even with an outstanding 1983 campaign, it's tough to argue he's even one of the top ten catchers in league history. Not good enough for the Hall.

    Clint Lance - A comparable offensive player to Fonkert who put together a more extended period of production at the plate. 119 OPS+ is noteworthy, but not enough. When you factor in defense -- a very important consideration for a catcher -- Lance becomes a very interesting candidate. With six Glove Wizards, and fielding metrics ranking him as one of the elite defensive catchers, he looks like a very viable candidate. Still, on a list of the BLB's best catchers, surely ranks outside the top five. With that much competition, it's tough to vote for him.

    Nick Latham -- One of the five to ten best hitters in league history, both for peak and career value, despite starting his career at age 31 in the league's inaugural season. Also an outstanding defender. An easy choice for me to vote for him.

    Enéas Monterola -- Like Latham, entered the BLB at age 31 with two phenomenal seasons. He had a much sharper decline, however. His 91.9 VORP in 1979 ranks as the 7th best in BLB history, ahead of any of Kellum's seasons. Also a plus defender. Still, he played seven years after that magical 1979, and despite the numerous opportunities, never really added to his resumé. Had he retired after 1979, would have my vote as a Founder's Wing guy. As is, not quite good enough.

    Tim Murcott -- A quality outfielder, but never one of the best at his position. Even in his best year, 1979, was only maybe the fifth best outfielder in the game. A good career, but not good enough.

    Dave O'Brien -- Baserunning ability and solid defense not enough to overshadow his .683 career OPS. Pass.

    Malachi Stiver -- Despite starting his career at age 31 in 1978, will go down as one of the BLB's best hitting catchers. He'd probably rank second on that list after Sergio Lumar, and maybe Gonzalez. Won a Stout Slugger. Below-average defense. The Mike Piazza of the BLB. He has my vote.

    Graham Tandy -- Good hitter. Excellent speed. Good defense. A better candidate than I thought. How many second basemen are better than him? Geoff Scott. Nate Bermeo. Wilton Harcourt. Neil Hildebrand. Jorge Taracena is kind of a man without a position, but was better than Tandy. That puts Tandy outside the top five. Do you vote for a guy who wasn't one of the five best at his position during his playing career? I don't.

    I'll write up my thoughts on the pitchers this weekend.
    Maine Guides
    General Manager: 1994-2032, 2049-Pres.
    Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
    Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
    Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
    8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
    30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

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    • #17
      Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post
      I'll write up my thoughts on the pitchers this weekend.
      Good stuff, I look forward to your write-up on the pitchers. I voted prior to your post and my ballot matches up exactly with your thoughts.
      Philly Freedom
      Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
      Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
      Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
      IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
      Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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      • #18
        Messing with the BB Card function this A.M. We can probably do some customizing to build some nice mock shrines....

        The Great One!

        To many rings to count...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by liquidcrash View Post
          Keep in mind that the "Accomplishments" section is incomplete. For instance, Tim Murcott won the Stout Slugger in 1979, which doesn't show up in the utility.
          I thought this was going to be fixed?
          California Kodiaks - GM - 1982-2013
          Brewmaster's Cups: 1987
          Import League Champions: 1987, 1989
          Porter Division Champions:
          1986, 1987, 1989, 1999
          , 2000
          Import League Wild Card: 2001, 2003, 2004

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          • #20
            How'd Taracena get a vote? He's not even on the ballot.
            California Kodiaks - GM - 1982-2013
            Brewmaster's Cups: 1987
            Import League Champions: 1987, 1989
            Porter Division Champions:
            1986, 1987, 1989, 1999
            , 2000
            Import League Wild Card: 2001, 2003, 2004

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Lintyfresh85 View Post
              How'd Taracena get a vote? He's not even on the ballot.
              Not sure if it's by design or not but from when I first checked the ballot yesterday to today, there's some players missing. From the top of my head, Taracena and Nathan MacOwl are two guys that were there yesterday and not there today. Even though I wasn't going to vote for those guys, I'm going to hold off voting until I figure out if this is correct or not.
              Charlotte Knights - OSFL
              Syracuse Slammers - BLB
              South America - 1984 WBC Runner Up

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              • #22
                Both were on the ballot this morning for me.


                Baltimore Bulldogs - BLB since '84
                - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                • #23
                  Guys are missing. There's supposed to be 17 eligible players. I count less than that on the Utility right now.

                  Yesterday, all 17 were there.
                  Denver Bulls

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Carlos View Post
                    Guys are missing. There's supposed to be 17 eligible players. I count less than that on the Utility right now.

                    Yesterday, all 17 were there.
                    I blame Clay.
                    Philly Freedom
                    Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
                    Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
                    Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
                    IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
                    Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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                    • #25
                      I didn't change anything.
                      The Great One!

                      To many rings to count...

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                      • #26
                        I show 11 candidates.
                        The Great One!

                        To many rings to count...

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                        • #27
                          Yea, the Utility did something which sucks for some players because they can't get votes to remain on the ballot if no one knows they are there.

                          I say it gets fixed and reset and get everyone to vote again.
                          Denver Bulls

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                          • #28
                            Agree with Carlos.
                            Maine Guides
                            General Manager: 1994-2032, 2049-Pres.
                            Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
                            Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
                            Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
                            8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
                            30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

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                            • #29
                              What would it take to reset the utility and start over with the full complement of candidates?
                              Philly Freedom
                              Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
                              Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
                              Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
                              IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
                              Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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                              • #30
                                Resetting is easy. But, I have no idea what caused them to drop, so it may be a futile effort.
                                The Great One!

                                To many rings to count...

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