*1991 Awards Voting*

[Sully]

Some of these races are going to be pretty tight. I actually had to spend some time ranking players.

[Jake]

I'm really surprised to see Mills out to a quick start over Olivo. Every way I looked at it Olivo was the clear first choice IMO.

I do expect Daly to finish second and keep Clay from his awards sweep. Didn't see Olivo coming.

[Andrew]

This is where I got the 45 days:

Determining rookie status:
A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list).

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info...egulations.jsp

[Z]

Rex Morgan for DL Refreshing New Brew. Hit .312 with 28 bombs and 110 RBI. Very good .312/.340/.527 line.

Dude was an incredibly consistent Beast this year. He won Rookie of the Month in April, July, August, and September.

Vote Beast!

[Lintyfresh85]

I'd like to point out, that once again, Wilkerson is undervalued by the voters.

Ever since he's joined the BLB, he's finished no less than second in VORP, just as he did this year.

Seeing as he's second, on a team that didn't even finish .500, one would think he'd be deserving of second place votes... but, apparently he's only good enough to be running fourth.

Vote Wilkerson, you're only denying greatness if you don't!

[Clay]

I'd like to point out, that once again, Wilkerson is undervalued by the voters.

Ever since he's joined the BLB, he's finished no less than second in VORP, just as he did this year.

Seeing as he's second, on a team that didn't even finish .500, one would think he'd be deserving of second place votes... but, apparently he's only good enough to be running fourth.

Vote Wilkerson, you're only denying greatness if you don't!

Actually, Greatness just won the Triple Crown.

[Lintyfresh85]

Through age 26, Wilkerson is the all-time leader in pitching VORP.

[Pat]

That's just because Derrick Tucker isn't old enough yet.

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And the only reason why Wilkerson is 2nd in VORP this year is because I limit my starters due to the six man rotation. Carlton only got 28 starts this year...just like last year...

[Andrew]

Rex Morgan for DL Refreshing New Brew. Hit .312 with 28 bombs and 110 RBI. Very good .312/.340/.527 line.

Dude was an incredibly consistent Beast this year. He won Rookie of the Month in April, July, August, and September.

Vote Beast!

Robison > Morgan

[Clay]

Through age 26, Wilkerson is the all-time leader in pitching VORP.

That's just because Derrick Tucker isn't old enough yet.

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And the only reason why Wilkerson is 2nd in VORP this year is because I limit my starters due to the six man rotation. Carlton only got 28 starts this year...just like last year...

Pancho and his Triple Crown and second Pale Ale award think this conversation is cute.

[Clay]

Just voted myself.

There are some good races this year... especially in the DL.

Again, hate to complain because of my embarrassment of riches this season, but I think Olivo is getting the short end of a Virginia pushback. Not taking anything away from Kit Kat or the rookie, but I'm not sure they should be stealing this award from Olivo.

Kit Kat, again great numbers, I think will own this award in the future... but his BABIP is like .050 points higher... his WHIP is 0.24 higher... Again, great player... he was on my ballot. But, I just don't see him better than Olivo this season.

The rookie, again, STUD... but I think he's really coasting in on a nice K total. BABIP is nearly .300 and, again, WHIP is 1.17 to Olivo's 0.93.

Sure I value my guys highly... but more importantly I think the best seasons should be rewarded. My opinion... I know.... but I think Olivo is getting hurt by some Owners want to not give another major award to a Colonial.

P.S. Olivo... another guy my mediocre GM skills procured in a trade.

[Andrew]

I don't understand the logic of using BABIP to judge pitchers. To me a lower BABIP means they were just lucky, not necessarily a better pitcher.

On the other hand, Jerry Daly is currently stealing the New Brew award from Basil Petrohilos so it may even out.

[Carlos]

I think another hitter had a better season than Daly.

I agree on Olivo.

Who is the guy that did not vote for Adrian Diaz? Please come to my house so I can smack you across the head for missing his name on the ballot.

I expected the DL Pale Ale results. Not surprised, but I lost some respect for fellow GMs. Just saying it how I see it. (And it isn't about Poole. It's about all the names that didn't get a fair vote in my opinion).

[funclown]

I don't understand the logic of using BABIP to judge pitchers. To me a lower BABIP means they were just lucky, not necessarily a better pitcher.

On the other hand, Jerry Daly is currently stealing the New Brew award from Basil Petrohilos so it may even out.

I thought that this was more an indication of a good defense behind the pitcher?????

[Jake]

I think another hitter had a better season than Daly.

I agree on Olivo.

Who is the guy that did not vote for Adrian Diaz? Please come to my house so I can smack you across the head for missing his name on the ballot.

I expected the DL Pale Ale results. Not surprised, but I lost some respect for fellow GMs. Just saying it how I see it. (And it isn't about Poole. It's about all the names that didn't get a fair vote in my opinion).

I sat there and stared at the Pale Ale candidates for about 10 minutes based off of your argument alone. In the end, I went with Carillo because his WHIP was relatively much lower than his ERA (4th in DL); led league in K's with a whopping 251 (over 60 more than second place); lead DL in starts - I personally like voting for guys who play a ton of games relative to their position, it tells me how valuable they were to their own team; and, least importantly but still impressively, 20 wins in the DL.

My next instinct was to support my Pilsner breatheren(sp?) and vote for Poole. But if you make the argument that wins shouldn't matter for Poole, then you've got to look at Brode who I voted second, and eventually Don Leonard as well, who I voted third. The final reason I left Poole out was his league leading low .248 BABIP and low K totals. As a fellow stat lover, I think you'll agree that those two numbers show that a lot of luck was on Poole's side at one point or another.

I will admit, I was the asshole who gave Zamarida a third place vote over some probably more deserving candidates. But, getting to play that crotchety old man a few times a year and following your team closely, he really had a impressive season, one of his best if not his best, and was the leader to get you to that toughly contested Pilsner crown. To me, that gives a guy a couple extra notches in his belt over someone who had a slightly better statistical season on a losing or non contending club, especially when we're just talking about a largely ceremonial third place vote.