COMP PICKS

[Andrew]

Using Los Lunas as an example. He's over budget this year and a 29 year old Sergio Lumar will be hitting Free Agency after the 1981 season. Lumar will probably demand somewhere in the Stiver ballpark, which is almost half his budget. Anything less than a 1st round pick hurts Los Lunas more than helps him. Even then, I guarantee if he had the means he'd take Lumar over that pick.

I think that's a great example of why it is necessary. HOWEVER... I fear that we will get into a situation where nobody will sign a Free Agent because a 1st Rounder is too high and then that team will get nothing.

I'd actually be a little shocked if Stivers gets signed this off-season. If Comp was a 2nd Rounder? Maybe more sniffers. 3rd Rounder? Then I think we have a truer market.

Again, what we don't have is TIME. We can't make an accurate assessment of the value of draft picks until we see the 1978 and 79 guys become regular players in the BLB level. If 90% of the first rounders are becoming legit big-time players in the league... then a 1st Rounder might be a little much.

I guarantee Stiver gets signed. If there's one thing I've learned in this league, it's that teams aren't afraid to overpay for players. With the top 10 picks protected, why wouldn't somebody like Washington with a ton of room and ton of draft picks throw down the money? There's always going to be a few teams with money that think they're a player or two away from being a contender.

On the last point, that's where I disagree. I think players of Lumar's caliber should be compensated with guys who are almost guaranteed to make the big leagues. Otherwise, they'll never be able to compete.

[Sully]

I do think there should be a cap on age, but I think the rest of it should remain as is. It's unlikely that a player is only going to sign a big money contract for one season, so they shouldn't be considered rent-a-players. If they are, it's because you only offered a one year contract, a decision you made as a GM knowing you'd have to compensate the team you signed him away from.

I was referring to acquiring players via trade with expiring contracts.

If there was an age cap then wouldn't that, for all intents and purposes, nearly all but eliminate the double-dipping issue?

Gotcha. If that's the case, maybe draft a rule that says no compensation will be granted for players you've acquired via trade in the same season their contract expires?

Why not just compensation for homegrown players only? Isn't the intent of the rule anyway? To protect the small market teams from losing the players they produce to the Yankees of the league?

I actually think that's a great idea.

[Andrew]

I actually think that's a great idea.

I agree, and I think it's definitely something we add next year. I don't think it's really applicable this year since it's the first year of compensation and it's too late to change the rules.

[Squint]

I actually think that's a great idea.

I agree, and I think it's definitely something we add next year. I don't think it's really applicable this year since it's the first year of compensation and it's too late to change the rules.

Agreed.

And again, I think this rule will all but eliminate the "double-dipping" possibility.

[robster1225]

there is a flaw with the home-grown players though.

What constitutes a home-grown player?

If i trade for someone who is under auto renewal now, then i keep him through arbitration, then he becomes a free agent, because I can't afford to keep him. What happens then? He wasn't draft by me, but because of my budget, i have to get good young players with small contracts.

[Squint]

there is a flaw with the home-grown players though.

What constitutes a home-grown player?

If i trade for someone who is under auto renewal now, then i keep him through arbitration, then he becomes a free agent, because I can't afford to keep him. What happens then? He wasn't draft by me, but because of my budget, i have to get good young players with small contracts.

I think we covered this earlier. If a player plays in your minor league system for an "X" number of games or "X" number of years then he can be considered homegrown.

[Andrew]

I think we covered this earlier. If a player plays in your minor league system for an "X" number of games or "X" number of years then he can be considered homegrown.

I'd make it even simpler. If a player plays his rookie season for your team, he's homegrown.

[Squint]

I think we covered this earlier. If a player plays in your minor league system for an "X" number of games or "X" number of years then he can be considered homegrown.

I'd make it even simpler. If a player plays his rookie season for your team, he's homegrown.

THE COMMISSIONER HAS SPOKEN!!!

[Andrew]

THE COMMISSIONER HAS SPOKEN!!!

Just to clarify, the player would have to lose his rookie eligibility. So if a player has 5 AB's in BLB then gets traded, he'd still be eligible for compensation with his new team.

[Squint]

THE COMMISSIONER HAS SPOKEN!!!

Just to clarify, the player would have to lose his rookie eligibility. So if a player has 5 AB's in BLB then gets traded, he'd still be eligible for compensation with his new team.

THE COMMISSIONER HAS SPOKEN!!! AGAIN!!!

[robster1225]

there is a flaw with the home-grown players though.

What constitutes a home-grown player?

If i trade for someone who is under auto renewal now, then i keep him through arbitration, then he becomes a free agent, because I can't afford to keep him. What happens then? He wasn't draft by me, but because of my budget, i have to get good young players with small contracts.

I think we covered this earlier. If a player plays in your minor league system for an "X" number of games or "X" number of years then he can be considered homegrown.

Sorry, with all the talk, I must have missed it/forgotten that it was mentioned.

[Jistic]

Funny. I think I was the only owner to vote against Draft pick compensation, and now it's an issue?

There's a lot not "fair" with the league, but that's life. I can't afford anyone and will begin losing all of my players soon. In won't matter that we've had the success we've had, the game doesn't seem to care.

But it is what it is. I can only vote when asked and play along. Don't worry, we'll fall by the wayside soon enough.

[Clay]

So we've gone all the way around the world twice and we're back to, basically, my original suggestion...

That was fun!!!

[Jistic]

What's really gonna be interesting is when some of these F/A's just end up not getting signed and sitting out the season.

[Sully]

Funny. I think I was the only owner to vote against Draft pick compensation, and now it's an issue?

There's a lot not "fair" with the league, but that's life. I can't afford anyone and will begin losing all of my players soon. In won't matter that we've had the success we've had, the game doesn't seem to care.

But it is what it is. I can only vote when asked and play along. Don't worry, we'll fall by the wayside soon enough.

You can't afford anyone, and will lose all of your players soon, but you're against Draft Pick compensation?