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  • #46
    Originally posted by BradZ View Post
    You're not paying 30% revenue sharing if I am understanding this correctly. Every team pitches in 30% (yes, your payment would be larger than others based on your revenue) and the amount that is pooled from every team gets broken up and redistributed to every team in equal shares.
    An !AH-HA! moment as my former co-workers would call it. That makes a lot more sense.


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    • #47
      So the hard cap would likely be below my budget, I'd assume?


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      • #48
        Originally posted by elprez98 View Post
        So the hard cap would likely be below my budget, I'd assume?
        I'd think so, yes.
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        • #49
          Think all we need now is an official "Hard Cap" and put this sucker to a vote
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          Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
          Wildcard 91, 95, 12


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          • #50
            Originally posted by funclown View Post
            Think all we need now is an official "Hard Cap" and put this sucker to a vote
            Barring any further surprising testing results from Andrew, I think I'm with the FClown.
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            Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
            Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
            IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
            Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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            • #51
              I think the hard cap should be around the same number as our luxury tax was. So somewhere in the $95m to $100m range.

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              • #52
                I say Clay makes an executive decision, and gets the ball rolling at 95 million.


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                • #53
                  My question is going to be how does a hard cap impact things like extensions, option years, arbitration, etc? Any ideas?
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Clay View Post
                    My question is going to be how does a hard cap impact things like extensions, option years, arbitration, etc? Any ideas?
                    I would expect these to be double checked, but it appears the hard cap acts as a govenor on your payroll when it comes to:

                    -Free Agents
                    -Extensions
                    -including or without option years which appear to get factored against the cap)

                    Essentially, even if you have excess budget, the game/owner limits the amt you can offer to an amt that would make your payroll reach the cap, but not exceed it.

                    Arbitration offers, it seems, will allow you to push your payroll past the hard cap to resign your players.
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                    Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
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                    • #55
                      I think I read that extensions can't violate a hard cap for two years. Prioritizing extensions would become more important. But I'm wondering how the game would prevent arbitration salaries from violating the cap. Maybe it would end up being a loophole?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by BradZ View Post
                        I would expect these to be double checked, but it appears the hard cap acts as a govenor on your payroll when it comes to:

                        -Free Agents
                        -Extensions
                        -including or without option years which appear to get factored against the cap)
                        If that's the case, should we get rid of the early cancellation of team options?


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                        - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                        - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                        - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Gyrodork View Post
                          I think I read that extensions can't violate a hard cap for two years. Prioritizing extensions would become more important. But I'm wondering how the game would prevent arbitration salaries from violating the cap. Maybe it would end up being a loophole?
                          I've tested the arbitration thing and it definitely will allow you to break the payroll cap via arbitration signings.
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                          Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
                          Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
                          Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
                          IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
                          Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Gyrodork View Post
                            I think I read that extensions can't violate a hard cap for two years. Prioritizing extensions would become more important. But I'm wondering how the game would prevent arbitration salaries from violating the cap. Maybe it would end up being a loophole?
                            I don't see any problem with people being able to resign their home grown talent.


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                            - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                            - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                            - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                            • #59
                              Yea, resigning talent is important for the small market teams. Whatever you give the small markets, the large markets are going to be able to use no matter the situation. So, while it would seem unfair to allow them to go above the cap to retain talent, it's far more important that small market teams are able to retain their own talent.
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                              • #60
                                Think I'd be ok with Abitration making u over the cap. Eventually not signing extensions, f/a will be impacted.

                                I'd vote for 95ml for the hard cap due to the abitration loophole.
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                                Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
                                DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
                                Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
                                Wildcard 91, 95, 12


                                ** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.

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