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  • #61
    Originally posted by Clay View Post
    I don't know who the other person that voted for Jayson McQueen was (IL Reliever), but good eye. I expected him to get a little more love than he got. He's pitching a ton of games/innings and posting pretty gaudy K totals for a reliever. I didn't expect him to make the team, but I figured he'd get more than 2 votes.
    I'm surprised he even got a vote (besides one from you.) Not that he isn't having a great year, there is just a ton of really good IL RPs this season.

    I mean, voters can only choose five players:

    Vernon Simmonds (VIR)
    Cristin Correa (PHI)
    Ken Bayer (BAT)
    Grant Lewis (WAS)
    Joe Alveraz (PHI)
    Julin Rodrguez (CAL)
    Roger Simonds (BAT)
    Joe Negron (CAL)
    Ted Jackson (CAR)

    Hard to argue he deserved a vote over any of them...and that was nine players..... With that said however, the dude is legit. Arguably the MVP of your entire pitching staff. While he (likely) won't make the All-Star team, I won't be shocked if he finishes in the top five voting for the Last Call Relief Award at seasons end. Actually, I expect him to be.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Pat View Post
      I'm surprised he even got a vote (besides one from you.) Not that he isn't having a great year, there is just a ton of really good IL RPs this season.

      I mean, voters can only choose five players:

      Vernon Simmonds (VIR)
      Cristin Correa (PHI)
      Ken Bayer (BAT)
      Grant Lewis (WAS)
      Joe Alveraz (PHI)
      Julin Rodrguez (CAL)
      Roger Simonds (BAT)
      Joe Negron (CAL)
      Ted Jackson (CAR)

      Hard to argue he deserved a vote over any of them...and that was nine players..... With that said however, the dude is legit. Arguably the MVP of your entire pitching staff. While he (likely) won't make the All-Star team, I won't be shocked if he finishes in the top five voting for the Last Call Relief Award at seasons end. Actually, I expect him to be.
      He should get New Brew votes too....

      I don't think Middle Relievers get enough love in ASG voting. That's why Negron got my #1 reliever vote. He's been great in Cali. Closers put up pretty numbers... but I don't know that they deserve all 5 spots.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Pat View Post
        I'm pretty sure all three are All-Stars.
        McCoy isn't even the starting SS on his own team as he only has 13 starts there all season. He deserves consideration to make the team as a pinch hitter but a SS he aint.

        The conversation for the best SS in the IL so far this season should be between O'Hegarty and Solis. O is clearly better with the wood in his hand, but Solis' superior defense is worth about 2 outs per week and should put him in the running.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Riverman View Post
          McCoy isn't even the starting SS on his own team as he only has 13 starts there all season. He deserves consideration to make the team as a pinch hitter but a SS he aint.
          He has played 38 games at SS, 30 of them starts.

          What are you talking about?
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          • #65
            Someone really didn't vote for Carillo? Wow.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Pat View Post
              He has played 38 games at SS, 30 of them starts.

              What are you talking about?

              I don't know what I was talking about. I'm not stoned (yet) but I must have been looking at someone else. I still think he should be a bench bat instead of the starting SS in AS game though.

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              • #67
                It's a sample size thing.... Same reason two people voted for Tom Zimmerman at 2B. His raw numbers are great... but he's been injured since May 12th... he didn't deserve any votes... but his AVGs are gaudy and 2B in the IL is so weak, he's still pingin' a 16.1 VORP with only 130 ABs.
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                To many rings to count...

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Jistic View Post
                  Someone really didn't vote for Carillo? Wow.
                  It was probably me. I hate puck'n Playboys and do everything I can to dis them.

                  Actually there are quite a few very deserving starters in the IL again this season and it is tough to limit it to 5.

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                  • #69
                    At least you admit it. As a penalty I will be awarded 3 of your prospects.
                    WINDY CITY PLAYBOYS
                    Bock Division Champions - 1978, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1986, 1990, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
                    Wildcard Playoff Berths - 1984, 1988, 1993, 2010
                    Import League Champions - 1978, 1979, 1980, 1986, 2008, 2009
                    BLB Champions - 1986, 2009
                    Hall of Famers: 4
                    Pale Ale Pitcher Awards: 6
                    Stout Sluggers: 2
                    New Brews: 6

                    Originally posted by fsquid
                    You guys should trade with Windy City.

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                    • #70
                      A quick question for my own edification: Are the in-game AllStar selections edited to match our league selections? For instance if I look at Mel Woodbury and his player report shows that he is a two time AllStar does that mean he was selected by the game or twice he has been voted by the owners?

                      If the ingame AllStar figures don't match the owner's picks is there any place other than searching through threads where AllStar rosters from prior years can be found?
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                      Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
                      Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
                      Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
                      IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
                      Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by BradZ View Post
                        A quick question for my own edification: Are the in-game AllStar selections edited to match our league selections? For instance if I look at Mel Woodbury and his player report shows that he is a two time AllStar does that mean he was selected by the game or twice he has been voted by the owners?

                        If the ingame AllStar figures don't match the owner's picks is there any place other than searching through threads where AllStar rosters from prior years can be found?
                        The in game teams are edited to match ours. The only exceptions are for players who were voted in but injured. Their history won't reflect their selection.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by BradZ View Post
                          A quick question for my own edification: Are the in-game AllStar selections edited to match our league selections? For instance if I look at Mel Woodbury and his player report shows that he is a two time AllStar does that mean he was selected by the game or twice he has been voted by the owners?

                          If the ingame AllStar figures don't match the owner's picks is there any place other than searching through threads where AllStar rosters from prior years can be found?
                          All-Stars = League selections
                          Awards = League and game selections
                          Wilmington Wildcats- 2057-
                          Seattle Pilots- 2017-2041
                          Washington Bats - 1979-2013

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Andrew View Post
                            The in game teams are edited to match ours. The only exceptions are for players who were voted in but injured. Their history won't reflect their selection.
                            Originally posted by Pat View Post
                            All-Stars = League selections
                            Awards = League and game selections
                            Thanks guys.
                            Philly Freedom
                            Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
                            Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
                            Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
                            IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
                            Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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                            • #74
                              I think I was the last one to do this, so we should be done now.


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                              • #75
                                OPS almost always trumps anything else in my decision process UNLESS I look at batting average and it's absolutely horrendous.

                                There is an outfielder (I forget who) that has a nice OPS but he can't hit a lick. I refuse to vote for him. Every year it's been the same way with him too. I feel like I'm his antagonist in his biographic film coming in 10 years.

                                I respect OPS and OBP and all that, but I also want a guy that can hit for average. When there are other players in the league hitting for average and putting up similar numbers, it's difficult for me to ignore them.

                                I doubt I could ever vote for a player that played only a few games because I also look at runs and stolen bases. If the player is amongst the leaders in runs at his position then it doesn't matter if he did it in half the games, he's an all-star.
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