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  • #31
    Originally posted by JJLinn
    I don't have enough pitchers, If I moved them from A or AAA, the same thing would happen there. It's not like it's my ML roster anyway.
    You don't have enough pitchers? There's plenty of FA pitchers available that you could've signed to fill out your farm system. There were plenty available on the waiver wire throughout the season, and I don't remember seeing you be competitve in that regard either. I just don't understand how you can be upset with your team's performance when it's a reflection upon the amount of work you've put into all of this.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sully
      Originally posted by JJLinn
      I don't have enough pitchers, If I moved them from A or AAA, the same thing would happen there. It's not like it's my ML roster anyway.
      You don't have enough pitchers? There's plenty of FA pitchers available that you could've signed to fill out your farm system. There were plenty available on the waiver wire throughout the season, and I don't remember seeing you be competitve in that regard either. I just don't understand how you can be upset with your team's performance when it's a reflection upon the amount of work you've put into all of this.
      There's only so much you can do when your team gets a bad draw in the dispersal draft. I don't know if you want me to trade my best players for fringe prospects that'll never pan out or what, but I'm not going to make stupid decisions just to show people that I'm trying. When something good comes along, I'll do it, and something good has only come along once so far. Maybe if you would give up someone of value, I would have traded you Reyes, but you didn't.

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      • #33
        If you're trying to sell us on the fact that it's impossible for you to improve beyond playing a guy at the wrong position on your major league team to the tune of 78 errors and fielding only 5 pitchers on your AAA farm team because you got a bad draw in the initial draft, let me save you some trouble and tell you right now that that's going to be a tough sell.
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        Originally posted by umd
        Everyone simmer down. I'm the moron here.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JJLinn
          Originally posted by Sully
          Originally posted by JJLinn
          I don't have enough pitchers, If I moved them from A or AAA, the same thing would happen there. It's not like it's my ML roster anyway.
          You don't have enough pitchers? There's plenty of FA pitchers available that you could've signed to fill out your farm system. There were plenty available on the waiver wire throughout the season, and I don't remember seeing you be competitve in that regard either. I just don't understand how you can be upset with your team's performance when it's a reflection upon the amount of work you've put into all of this.
          There's only so much you can do when your team gets a bad draw in the dispersal draft. I don't know if you want me to trade my best players for fringe prospects that'll never pan out or what, but I'm not going to make stupid decisions just to show people that I'm trying. When something good comes along, I'll do it, and something good has only come along once so far. Maybe if you would give up someone of value, I would have traded you Reyes, but you didn't.
          What does Reyes, or me not giving you what you want, have to do with this? I'm just simply stating that I don't understand, or sympathize, with your situation. Philadelphia had a terrible draw, he realized it early last season, and did something about it. He traded one of the best pitchers in the league for two solid prospects to you...the Pittsburgh Millers, a team that was in last place, and 18 games out. Then, Lacour leaves at the end of the season. Was that a smart move for a last place team to make?

          Again, you're dancing around the points we're trying to get across. You're in last place, your farm system is incomplete, you have players palying out of position, you're inactive on the waiver and FA front...none of this is helping the situation you've put your team in. I don't want to hear "oh, it was my luck in the dispersal draft". That excuse can only carry you so far.

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          • #35
            He did trade Reyes to me in exchange for some solid prospects. Abe and Bedell kind of tanked the moment they got there, but it was at least one move to improve the rotation. Gremades has been very good for him, much better than I expected at the time of the trade.
            Washington Bats, 2013-

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sully
              Originally posted by JJLinn
              Originally posted by Sully
              Originally posted by JJLinn
              I don't have enough pitchers, If I moved them from A or AAA, the same thing would happen there. It's not like it's my ML roster anyway.
              You don't have enough pitchers? There's plenty of FA pitchers available that you could've signed to fill out your farm system. There were plenty available on the waiver wire throughout the season, and I don't remember seeing you be competitve in that regard either. I just don't understand how you can be upset with your team's performance when it's a reflection upon the amount of work you've put into all of this.
              There's only so much you can do when your team gets a bad draw in the dispersal draft. I don't know if you want me to trade my best players for fringe prospects that'll never pan out or what, but I'm not going to make stupid decisions just to show people that I'm trying. When something good comes along, I'll do it, and something good has only come along once so far. Maybe if you would give up someone of value, I would have traded you Reyes, but you didn't.
              What does Reyes, or me not giving you what you want, have to do with this? I'm just simply stating that I don't understand, or sympathize, with your situation. Philadelphia had a terrible draw, he realized it early last season, and did something about it. He traded one of the best pitchers in the league for two solid prospects to you...the Pittsburgh Millers, a team that was in last place, and 18 games out. Then, Lacour leaves at the end of the season. Was that a smart move for a last place team to make?

              Again, you're dancing around the points we're trying to get across. You're in last place, your farm system is incomplete, you have players palying out of position, you're inactive on the waiver and FA front...none of this is helping the situation you've put your team in. I don't want to hear "oh, it was my luck in the dispersal draft". That excuse can only carry you so far.
              Sorry Lacour wouldn't negotiate with me during the season, and I guess he should have taken my offer, which was much less than what Davenport gave him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by rubisco43
                Originally posted by Sully
                Originally posted by rubisco43
                I must say, congrats Pawtucket. Going from 69 wins to 84 so far... great turnaround!
                Give some credit to Philadelphia as well. Last year, he was selling everyone, starting a rebuilding process. He's put together a young, competitive team in only a year's time.

                As much as it pains me to say it, he gets my vote for GM of the year.
                But until I see some results on the field, my vote goes to Pawtucket.
                I agree. My organization's going in the right direction, but we still have a year or two to go before we're a playoff threat. Pawtucket had a hell of a turnaround indeed.

                As for JJ, it looks like some of the other owners here have that covered.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JJLinn
                  Originally posted by Sully
                  Originally posted by JJLinn
                  Originally posted by Sully
                  Originally posted by JJLinn
                  I don't have enough pitchers, If I moved them from A or AAA, the same thing would happen there. It's not like it's my ML roster anyway.
                  You don't have enough pitchers? There's plenty of FA pitchers available that you could've signed to fill out your farm system. There were plenty available on the waiver wire throughout the season, and I don't remember seeing you be competitve in that regard either. I just don't understand how you can be upset with your team's performance when it's a reflection upon the amount of work you've put into all of this.
                  There's only so much you can do when your team gets a bad draw in the dispersal draft. I don't know if you want me to trade my best players for fringe prospects that'll never pan out or what, but I'm not going to make stupid decisions just to show people that I'm trying. When something good comes along, I'll do it, and something good has only come along once so far. Maybe if you would give up someone of value, I would have traded you Reyes, but you didn't.
                  What does Reyes, or me not giving you what you want, have to do with this? I'm just simply stating that I don't understand, or sympathize, with your situation. Philadelphia had a terrible draw, he realized it early last season, and did something about it. He traded one of the best pitchers in the league for two solid prospects to you...the Pittsburgh Millers, a team that was in last place, and 18 games out. Then, Lacour leaves at the end of the season. Was that a smart move for a last place team to make?

                  Again, you're dancing around the points we're trying to get across. You're in last place, your farm system is incomplete, you have players palying out of position, you're inactive on the waiver and FA front...none of this is helping the situation you've put your team in. I don't want to hear "oh, it was my luck in the dispersal draft". That excuse can only carry you so far.
                  Sorry Lacour wouldn't negotiate with me during the season, and I guess he should have taken my offer, which was much less than what Davenport gave him.
                  I don't think you're getting it. People have given specific examples to illustrate how you're handling your team.. but the overall point is that we don't think you're actually putting hardly ANY effort into making your ENTIRE organization competitive.

                  No one is saying that you're a liar about trying to shop Brown. No one is calling you a liar about the Lacour situation. But the fact remains...

                  1. It takes almost NO effort to play your players in the right position.
                  2. It takes a little effort to make sure you have an ample amount of pitchers in EACH league level.
                  3. Your AAA team finished with a .177 winning percentage. Looking at your roster, you have ONE catcher, 3 IF, and 5 OF. Basically, no position player EVER gets a day off b/c you have JUST ENOUGH players.
                  4. Your AA team finished with a .192 winning percentage. Looking at this roster, you have 5 total pitchers, 2 catchers, 5 IF, and ONE OF. You're telling me you can't find a SINGLE person... I'm talking a complete SHIT person, to play in the OF off the FA list? I'm sure ONE of them will sign a minor league contract.
                  5. Even though your A team has a complete set of players, you still don't have a completely filled out lineup. It takes a fraction of a second to let the manager decide that for you if you don't want to take the time to do it up yourself. And the lineup issue goes for your entire organization.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JJLinn
                    Originally posted by Sully
                    Originally posted by JJLinn
                    Originally posted by Sully
                    Originally posted by JJLinn
                    I don't have enough pitchers, If I moved them from A or AAA, the same thing would happen there. It's not like it's my ML roster anyway.
                    You don't have enough pitchers? There's plenty of FA pitchers available that you could've signed to fill out your farm system. There were plenty available on the waiver wire throughout the season, and I don't remember seeing you be competitve in that regard either. I just don't understand how you can be upset with your team's performance when it's a reflection upon the amount of work you've put into all of this.
                    There's only so much you can do when your team gets a bad draw in the dispersal draft. I don't know if you want me to trade my best players for fringe prospects that'll never pan out or what, but I'm not going to make stupid decisions just to show people that I'm trying. When something good comes along, I'll do it, and something good has only come along once so far. Maybe if you would give up someone of value, I would have traded you Reyes, but you didn't.
                    What does Reyes, or me not giving you what you want, have to do with this? I'm just simply stating that I don't understand, or sympathize, with your situation. Philadelphia had a terrible draw, he realized it early last season, and did something about it. He traded one of the best pitchers in the league for two solid prospects to you...the Pittsburgh Millers, a team that was in last place, and 18 games out. Then, Lacour leaves at the end of the season. Was that a smart move for a last place team to make?

                    Again, you're dancing around the points we're trying to get across. You're in last place, your farm system is incomplete, you have players palying out of position, you're inactive on the waiver and FA front...none of this is helping the situation you've put your team in. I don't want to hear "oh, it was my luck in the dispersal draft". That excuse can only carry you so far.
                    Sorry Lacour wouldn't negotiate with me during the season, and I guess he should have taken my offer, which was much less than what Davenport gave him.
                    Again, excuses.

                    When do we get the reply that states "You know what guys, I've been a terrible owner. For that reason, my team's performance has suffered because of it. I think it's time that I show some more dedication to the league, and some appreciation for its members. I'm going to try my best to turn this franchise around."?

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                    • #40
                      My team's performance has suffred because I don't have good players. I have been looking through FA all year and have not found any pitchers other than Rabe that would help me. Other than Toler, no hitters that were capable of starting. I got a bad draw and I'm still trying to work my way out of it.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JJLinn
                        My team's performance has suffred because I don't have good players. I have been looking through FA all year and have not found any pitchers other than Rabe that would help me. Other than Toler, no hitters that were capable of starting. I got a bad draw and I'm still trying to work my way out of it.
                        Your team's performance has suffered b/c you don't have ENOUGH players. Your team's performance has suffered b/c your RF is playing SS. Your team's performance has suffered b/c it seems like you really don't give a shit. Be honest.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by JJLinn
                          My team's performance has suffred because I don't have good players. I have been looking through FA all year and have not found any pitchers other than Rabe that would help me. Other than Toler, no hitters that were capable of starting. I got a bad draw and I'm still trying to work my way out of it.
                          You know, you almost had me for a second. I was believing everything you said right up until this..."and I'm still trying to work my way out of it".

                          I don't see it.

                          How do you expect to develop talent, which is a must for a rebuilding team, when your minors are incomplete? I'm sorry, but that's absurd.

                          There have been plenty of young, solid players to come across the waiver wire this season. Some, I've acquired, while some, I've placed there. How many did you acquire, or even take a look at?


                          You bitch and moan about the state of your team, yet your minors are incomplete, you're developing nothing, and you have several players playing out of position. How could you seriously expect improvement under those conditions? It only takes 10 minutes to browse your linupes, and the waiver wire.

                          I know I'm being tough on you, and you probably think I'm an ass, but this has gone on long enough. Your team is stuck in a horrific state because of your level of participation, not because of the dispersal draft.

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                          • #43
                            You people are acting like I'd have 90 wins right now if Joe ".210" Saltines wasn't playing shortstop. I got a bad draw, and pitchers didn't accept my offers last off-season. What else am I supposed to do, sign pitchers that are rated 25 overall and expect them to be Walter Lacour?

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                            • #44
                              But eventually they WILL be your ML roster! Even if you picked up scrubs from the free agent pool, at least the few players who WILL make it to the big league won't be permanently damaged from playing at the wrong level or injured from playing exhausted and out of position.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sully
                                Originally posted by JJLinn
                                My team's performance has suffred because I don't have good players. I have been looking through FA all year and have not found any pitchers other than Rabe that would help me. Other than Toler, no hitters that were capable of starting. I got a bad draw and I'm still trying to work my way out of it.
                                You know, you almost had me for a second. I was believing everything you said right up until this..."and I'm still trying to work my way out of it".

                                I don't see it.

                                How do you expect to develop talent, which is a must for a rebuilding team, when your minors are incomplete? I'm sorry, but that's absurd.

                                There have been plenty of young, solid players to come across the waiver wire this season. Some, I've acquired, while some, I've placed there. How many did you acquire, or even take a look at?


                                You bitch and moan about the state of your team, yet your minors are incomplete, you're developing nothing, and you have several players playing out of position. How could you seriously expect improvement under those conditions? It only takes 10 minutes to browse your linupes, and the waiver wire.

                                I know I'm being tough on you, and you probably think I'm an ass, but this has gone on long enough. Your team is stuck in a horrific state because of your level of participation, not because of the dispersal draft.
                                I guess it's warranted, but I just don't know what else I'm expected to do. Having a complete AA team isn't going to help Mark Steward turn into the beast that he will be.

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