One more note: At onetime I thought so highly of character, but Jistic told I was a moron then took me thru all these players who developed who basically we druggies and criminals. Also interesting players over time change character a bit. Alot of my super team last decade started out as asshole, but as the seasons passed became up standing member of society.
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Originally posted by funclown View PostOne more note: At onetime I thought so highly of character, but Jistic told I was a moron then took me thru all these players who developed who basically we druggies and criminals. Also interesting players over time change character a bit. Alot of my super team last decade started out as asshole, but as the seasons passed became up standing member of society.Death Valley Scorpions (2003-Present)
Division Champs '05 '07 '08 '11 '13 '14 '15 '16 '19
IL WC '09 '10 '12 '17
IL Champs '13 '16 '19
Stout Slugger '08 (Jones) '15 (McCarley)
Last Call '08 (Manning)
New Brew '08 (Pulido)
Desert Legends
#33 Danny Salcedo ('15) #30 Colin Cash ('16) #32 Brendan Lindsey ('17)
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Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post
I'm so afraid to draft underdeveloped prospects because I just assume that the 6/5/5/5/6 hitter is going to be 5/3/3/4/5 by the time he's 22.
Most of this rebuild Pawtucket is currently on came in the form of 2nd and 3rd rounders. Will it work? Who the heck knows, but it makes the WHOLE draft important for sure.PAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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Originally posted by umd View Post
Character is a huge part of team chemistry and morale in this version. Swings are huge.
PAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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Originally posted by funclown View Post
I still don't know what comes first in this chicken or the egg scenario. My AAA team had happy players for seasons while we were winning. They're character were terrible. Today they suck and right off the bat were angry. I just moral is an output of wins and losses and NOT an input into the players performance. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this one. I still see guys develop who are pissed off while happy dudes drop like flies.Death Valley Scorpions (2003-Present)
Division Champs '05 '07 '08 '11 '13 '14 '15 '16 '19
IL WC '09 '10 '12 '17
IL Champs '13 '16 '19
Stout Slugger '08 (Jones) '15 (McCarley)
Last Call '08 (Manning)
New Brew '08 (Pulido)
Desert Legends
#33 Danny Salcedo ('15) #30 Colin Cash ('16) #32 Brendan Lindsey ('17)
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Originally posted by umd View Post
I'm not talking about development more disgruntled players and their influence on a clubhouse.
To me its all murky. A few seasons ago I looked at Phoenix and had some serious bad character players. Didn't matter, they were happy and won it all.PAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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Character matters when your team is in the middle of the pack somewhere.
If your team is good, it doesn't matter because everyone will be happy that the team is inevitably winning games.
If your team is bad, it doesn't matter because everyone will be upset that the team is inevitably losing games.
It's when you're in the middle somewhere that character matters because if you go on a bad skid, morale can go downhill and your team lacks the talent to climb out of it.Maine Guides
General Manager: 1994-2032, 2049-Pres.
Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez
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Originally posted by TheLetterZ View PostCharacter matters when your team is in the middle of the pack somewhere.
If your team is good, it doesn't matter because everyone will be happy that the team is inevitably winning games.
If your team is bad, it doesn't matter because everyone will be upset that the team is inevitably losing games.
It's when you're in the middle somewhere that character matters because if you go on a bad skid, morale can go downhill and your team lacks the talent to climb out of it.
One thing I do know is both my manager and bench coach seems to struggle with my players relationship wise.PAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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Cancer players can kill a roster. Ian Van Gorder was one of 3 I had.Death Valley Scorpions (2003-Present)
Division Champs '05 '07 '08 '11 '13 '14 '15 '16 '19
IL WC '09 '10 '12 '17
IL Champs '13 '16 '19
Stout Slugger '08 (Jones) '15 (McCarley)
Last Call '08 (Manning)
New Brew '08 (Pulido)
Desert Legends
#33 Danny Salcedo ('15) #30 Colin Cash ('16) #32 Brendan Lindsey ('17)
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Originally posted by umd View PostCancer players can kill a roster. Ian Van Gorder was one of 3 I had.
PAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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In another league (oh yea, I did it again!), I have a cancer on my team but he's so damn talented I had to sign him. Anyway, the year we started off slow, he was pissed and started complaining about himself being a bad influence. Other players followed in his path and complained about him.
This new season, team started off hot and everyone was happy except for him sitting by himself in the dugout. He never complained but the new Team Chemistry page in OOTP 18 showed that he was the least happiest of all players. He's just an asshole.Denver Bulls
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I generally ignore OSA, to be honest. I was so accustomed to disregarding in-game scouting because it was close to useless back in the day, and haven't been able to break the habit.
I almost always go college/Cape Cod players over high school players. Mostly out of impatience, but it is easier to project them IMO.
The only steadfast rules I adhere to are 1) never draft a player with work ethic below normal in the first round, and 2) no fragile players, period.
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Originally posted by JJLinn View PostI generally ignore OSA, to be honest. I was so accustomed to disregarding in-game scouting because it was close to useless back in the day, and haven't been able to break the habit.
I almost always go college/Cape Cod players over high school players. Mostly out of impatience, but it is easier to project them IMO.
The only steadfast rules I adhere to are 1) never draft a player with work ethic below normal in the first round, and 2) no fragile players, period.
http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/blb/...ayer_6406.htmlPAWTUCKET PATRIOTS
Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016
DL Champions 91, 03, 04, 10, 13, 14**,16,17
Ale Champions 92, 93, 94, 02, 03, 04, 10, 11, 13, 14**, 16, 17, 18
Wildcard 91, 95, 12
** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.
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In most years, I scour through stats. Stats are king in my war room, followed closely by intangibles. I then then matchup my scout rating with those stats. In my experience, OSA ratings are largely unreliable without agreement from our scout.
If I don't have time or just too lazy to scout myself, I always go with my scout's recommendation by ratings as I believe that is just how the game is really meant to be played in a GM role. Even late in the draft, I usually still look for high WE/INT guys with bad stats or great ratings from my scout to go with bad intangibles before I go with OSA ratings.
Baltimore Bulldogs - BLB since '84
- Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
- Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
- Brewmaster's Cup: '01
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