2022 Regular Season SIM 5 Complete - Next SIM Monday 7/10

[Delandis]

You guys can't have it both ways.

You can't keep all of your homegrown stars AND have youngish stars from this closed universe available for FA.

Or maybe I'm just missing the point and you guys don't want young stars available in FA.

[Pat]

Ulloa just hit another homerun.

[umd]

My only point was it seems there should be more variation in the IFA scouting. Looks like the ratings are pretty dead on in this version which is out of line with how scouting is handled in all other aspects of our league.

From a franchise standpoint I'll have a shit ton of money next FA so good luck to everyone beating me out if there is an IFA star I want.

I just plan to tank and sign IFAs. That's the way the BLB is headed so I'll embrace it.

[Guest]

You guys can't have it both ways.

You can't keep all of your homegrown stars AND have youngish stars from this closed universe available for FA.

Or maybe I'm just missing the point and you guys don't want young stars available in FA.

This. Being able to get players before or in the middle of their prime is why I focus on IFA, and you don't have to "tank" financially to do it.

[Delandis]

If we want to truly have an honest talk about "competitive balance" then let's talk about trading draft picks, because the reality is that IFA is just a drop in the bucket compared to the impact that draft pick trading has on the "competitive balance" of the league. But I guarantee you will only hear crickets when that is brought up.

And for the record I'm not knocking the practice as I have and still use it just as heavily as anyone. But the fact remains that if we want to talk about competitive balance, then let's talk about what really skews the balance of power in the league.

[Pat]

We should ban UMD from making any trades.

He's "The Artist."

[Guest]

As an aside, when are we starting the draft?

[umd]

Let's just reset the league and start over.

[Sharkn20]

We are just prompting teams to tank...

If u tank you get high draft picks --> Great players.

If u tank you have payroll to hire star IFA when ur team is turning the corner to compete again...

I don't like how things are turning around right now...

We should have a more balanced approach so a good team can be assembled in different ways.

We should penalise tanking, not prompting it.

Just my 2 cents.

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[Guest]

We are just prompting teams to tank...

If u tank you get high draft picks --> Great players.

If u tank you have payroll to hire star IFA when ur team is turning the corner to compete again...

I don't like how things are turning around right now...

We should have a more balanced approach so a good team can be assembled in different ways.

We should penalise tanking, not prompting it.

Just my 2 cents.

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You're just saying that because your mortgaged your future to keep your core together. Maybe flip some of your older assets for prospects and picks instead of constantly dealing AAA guys. It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy if you don't move your older players, extend them, and not have extra budget room for free agents.

I have yet to tank since I've been back and signed two IFA's...payroll flexibility =\= tanking. It doesn't take a lot to have 20-30 million free if you plan for it.

Also, draft picks are volatile af right now (not a bad thing), so I'm not sure where that criticism is coming from. I took Corr 5th overall a few years ago and he's a fucking scrub.

[Pat]

We are just prompting teams to tank...

If u tank you get high draft picTks --> Great players.

If u tank you have payroll to hire star IFA when ur team is turning the corner to compete again...

I don't like how things are turning around right now...

We should have a more balanced approach so a good team can be assembled in different ways.

We should penalise tanking, not prompting it.

Just my 2 cents.

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I disagree with almost everything you said here.

My two cents:

1. Just because you have a high draft pick does not mean you are guaranteed a great player. Especially with the newer versions of OOTP there are much more 1st round busts and late round gems. Look at the top prospect lists. Of the Top 30 prospects, the only hitters, Tom Clark (1.4) and Allistair Whaley (1.5) were drafted very high in the draft, while you see 2nd, 3rd, 4th, even UDFA hitters rounding out the rest. Look at the top players list. For every Mike Morla, there is a Geoff Yonke, Tom Lewis, or Fred Frederick.

2. If you tank you actually lose a lot of your budget. Seattle went from $120M, to $115, to $112, to $102, to a projected $97M. And there was only two years of those four, where you could say I was "tanking" or "not fielding a competent team." So, if you tank for a long time, you actually lose your budget room pretty quick. I feel that is much more drastic in this version. If you tank for years at a time you could see your budget decimated.

3. What exactly do you "not like" how things are turning? You feel tanking is a trend? What teams would you even identify at this point as tanking? Montreal? Los Angeles? Carolina? Death Valley? There is a huge difference between "tanking" and "rebuilding". Those teams are still exporting and fielding rosters with BLB players. What would you have suggested they do instead? Would it have been smarter for Montreal to hang onto Jimmy Douglas for yet another season after shopping him for the past three seasons? Would you have suggested Los Angeles have given Jamie McPherson that $300M contract he wanted? Carolina tried to win just last season and even made a move to add Ricky Murillo. Should Death Valley not capitalize on selling when his team isn't going to win?

4. What is this "balanced approach" you are talking about? Good teams can't be assembled in different ways? You are saying all the "good teams" got there by tanking? I'm pretty sure Baltimore, DC, Pitt, California, Phoenix, etc, didn't get to where they are by tanking.

5. I think you meant to say promoting. How are we promoting tanking? And how would you want to penalize it?

I think it's fairly easy to criticize GMs on their management style while your own team has been on a good run. We all take different approaches to trying to win. Whether that's focusing on draft, signing big name FAs, making big trades, spending a lot on PD/scouting, trading for picks or prospects vs. trading for proven players, etc. From what I can gather, it looks like Dallas is about to be in big trouble. Seven players on what some would call a "max deal" and a team that is trending down. When Dallas dips sub .500 for the first time since 2014, should we assume that you must be tanking?

[Delandis]

Let's just reset the league and start over.

Lets wait until after Stripling finishes his career. Then press reset.

[Pat]

Lets wait until after Stripling finishes his career. Then press reset.

Yeah, no way, I just signed Ulloa.

[umd]

Yeah, no way, I just signed Ulloa.

It was pretty obvious that the guy was the best in the bunch. The problem people have is they'll complain about giving $30m+ to a 30 year old 1B only after he hits .350 with a billion HRs.

They also scoff at giving $40m+ on a front loaded long term deal to a 21 year old OF. Yet, even if they, could they wouldn't.

[umd]

We are just prompting teams to tank...

If u tank you get high draft picks --> Great players.

Yes! That's my plan. Except I traded an entire roster much of it in their prime for prospects and not picks.

If u tank you have payroll to hire star IFA when ur team is turning the corner to compete again...

Yes! But not only IFA. You can afford those old stars no one wants to pay or trade for a Yonke from a team going in a different direction. This is not new.

I don't like how things are turning around right now...

Tanking to a title is nothing new and is (IMO) the best way to win a title in the BLB. It may be harder with the new scouting and the new financial systems but I expect it to still be the #1 way to build a team around here.

We should have a more balanced approach so a good team can be assembled in different ways.

We should penalise tanking, not prompting it.

This new version of OOTP has really changed every system. Probably impacted me more than other franchises because it didn't work with the type of players I like. Now I'm just going to draft a ton and hope for some stars and buy myself 2-3 huge FAs - hopefully young IFAs and never lock anyone up too soon.

Many around here was pissed teams could negotiate team friendly deals, buy down deals. Many wanted "realistic" contracts that favored star players... well we got it. One franchise player can eat up 30-40% of payroll. That's what the league decided. If you don't have money it's because stars are paid $20m plus. Vet starters $10m plus.

Thats where your money went. We wanted to hamstring dynasties. We did it. We made it hard to keep homegrown stars without paying them and we made FA extremely expensive. That makes it virtually impossible to keep winning without churning your roster - eventually even that doesn't work.