2022 Regular Season SIM 5 Complete - Next SIM Monday 7/10

[umd]

Welcome to the BLB where we want parity... except when our way doesn't work anymore.

[funclown]

Welcome to the BLB where we want parity... except when our way doesn't work anymore.

Does Shark actually watch the MLB, NBA and watching the Browns attempt it the NFL? What are teams that have aging rosters, high salaries and underperforming players suppose to do. Just keep right at it?

The definition of insanity is.....

[Pat]

Does Shark actually watch the MLB, NBA and watching the Browns attempt it the NFL? What are teams that have aging rosters, high salaries and underperforming players suppose to do. Just keep right at it?

The definition of insanity is.....

Hey! He's got two rings so he is smarter than all of us.

[Guest]

17 just makes us hate each other I think we should switch to 18 now

Hank can still fuck off

[Carlos]

I love everybody.

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[Delandis]

17 just makes us hate each other I think we should switch to 18 now

Hank can still fuck off

Oh this shit will go away the second the draft thread is opened.

Well at least until next year when DVS and Pawtucket shell out 50 MM for the next Ulloa and Dominguez.

[umd]

Oh this shit will go away the second the draft thread is opened.

Well at least until next year when DVS and Pawtucket shell out 50 MM for the next Ulloa and Dominguez.

Right on both accounts. 4 first round picks and I want another. I'm gonna go balls out in FA next year... and have another top 3 pick.

[Delandis]

17 just makes us hate each other I think we should switch to 18 now

Hank can still fuck off

JJ you haven't been back long enough to realize I start this just to keep shit interesting around here. I'm serious about my position but in the end, it's not like I'm going leave.

I wish I knew how to quit you guys.

[Pat]

JJ you haven't been back long enough to realize I start this just to keep shit interesting around here. I'm serious about my position but in the end, it's not like I'm going leave.

I wish I knew how to quit you guys.

I tried it for awhile.

[Guest]

JJ you haven't been back long enough to realize I start this just to keep shit interesting around here. I'm serious about my position but in the end, it's not like I'm going leave.

I wish I knew how to quit you guys.

I was out for like 7 years. Checked the site at least 3-4 times a year.

[PaulC]

We are just prompting teams to tank...

If u tank you get high draft picks --> Great players.

If u tank you have payroll to hire star IFA when ur team is turning the corner to compete again...

I don't like how things are turning around right now...

We should have a more balanced approach so a good team can be assembled in different ways.

We should penalise tanking, not prompting it.

Just my 2 cents.

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It's not all tanking!! California was rebuild without intentionally tanking for years on end. We came in and were bad, so I traded a few star players that would be hard to resign to Morgantown for draft picks. I was then actively pursuing free agents the next few years, signed some, tried to win and stay competitive. I brought rookies up early which cost me later, and got lucky on a generational talent in Mike Morla. We then traded out of a mediocre draft and got lucky in a later one when our picks 'hit'. The idea that we just crappped the bed for five years is ridiculous.

Honestly, this discussion sounds more like people not being able to adapt to a new set of playing rules. The old ways don't work, oh well, tank or don't tank, sign IFAs or don't, pour money into scouting or don't, build a team on offence or defence or a mix of either.

[PaulC]

You're just saying that because your mortgaged your future to keep your core together. Maybe flip some of your older assets for prospects and picks instead of constantly dealing AAA guys. It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy if you don't move your older players, extend them, and not have extra budget room for free agents.

I have yet to tank since I've been back and signed two IFA's...payroll flexibility =\= tanking. It doesn't take a lot to have 20-30 million free if you plan for it.

Also, draft picks are volatile af right now (not a bad thing), so I'm not sure where that criticism is coming from. I took Corr 5th overall a few years ago and he's a fucking scrub.

Agreed! Some of my high first round picks not named Morla has also been plain marginal.

[PaulC]

I disagree with almost everything you said here.

My two cents:

1. Just because you have a high draft pick does not mean you are guaranteed a great player. Especially with the newer versions of OOTP there are much more 1st round busts and late round gems. Look at the top prospect lists. Of the Top 30 prospects, the only hitters, Tom Clark (1.4) and Allistair Whaley (1.5) were drafted very high in the draft, while you see 2nd, 3rd, 4th, even UDFA hitters rounding out the rest. Look at the top players list. For every Mike Morla, there is a Geoff Yonke, Tom Lewis, or Fred Frederick.

2. If you tank you actually lose a lot of your budget. Seattle went from $120M, to $115, to $112, to $102, to a projected $97M. And there was only two years of those four, where you could say I was "tanking" or "not fielding a competent team." So, if you tank for a long time, you actually lose your budget room pretty quick. I feel that is much more drastic in this version. If you tank for years at a time you could see your budget decimated.

3. What exactly do you "not like" how things are turning? You feel tanking is a trend? What teams would you even identify at this point as tanking? Montreal? Los Angeles? Carolina? Death Valley? There is a huge difference between "tanking" and "rebuilding". Those teams are still exporting and fielding rosters with BLB players. What would you have suggested they do instead? Would it have been smarter for Montreal to hang onto Jimmy Douglas for yet another season after shopping him for the past three seasons? Would you have suggested Los Angeles have given Jamie McPherson that $300M contract he wanted? Carolina tried to win just last season and even made a move to add Ricky Murillo. Should Death Valley not capitalize on selling when his team isn't going to win?

4. What is this "balanced approach" you are talking about? Good teams can't be assembled in different ways? You are saying all the "good teams" got there by tanking? I'm pretty sure Baltimore, DC, Pitt, California, Phoenix, etc, didn't get to where they are by tanking.

5. I think you meant to say promoting. How are we promoting tanking? And how would you want to penalize it?

I think it's fairly easy to criticize GMs on their management style while your own team has been on a good run. We all take different approaches to trying to win. Whether that's focusing on draft, signing big name FAs, making big trades, spending a lot on PD/scouting, trading for picks or prospects vs. trading for proven players, etc. From what I can gather, it looks like Dallas is about to be in big trouble. Seven players on what some would call a "max deal" and a team that is trending down. When Dallas dips sub .500 for the first time since 2014, should we assume that you must be tanking?

Agreed!

[PaulC]

This new version of OOTP has really changed every system. Probably impacted me more than other franchises because it didn't work with the type of players I like. Now I'm just going to draft a ton and hope for some stars and buy myself 2-3 huge FAs - hopefully young IFAs and never lock anyone up too soon.

Many around here was pissed teams could negotiate team friendly deals, buy down deals. Many wanted "realistic" contracts that favored star players... well we got it. One franchise player can eat up 30-40% of payroll. That's what the league decided. If you don't have money it's because stars are paid $20m plus. Vet starters $10m plus.

Thats where your money went. We wanted to hamstring dynasties. We did it. We made it hard to keep homegrown stars without paying them and we made FA extremely expensive. That makes it virtually impossible to keep winning without churning your roster - eventually even that doesn't work.

I don't think it hamstrings dynasties, I think it forces tough decisions on star players and when to let go...

[PaulC]

Oh this shit will go away the second the draft thread is opened.

Well at least until next year when DVS and Pawtucket shell out 50 MM for the next Ulloa and Dominguez.

This conversation become moot if Ulloa turns into Chris Shelton in a year...