2021 Regular Season SIM 9 Complete - Next SIM Saturday 5/6

[funclown]

My traditional way obviously isn't working. I guess I just prefer more specific info to less and there's virtually no specific info available for morale other than one line of text in the player screen, the intangibles cards, reading each individual player's morale, random emails and the coaches relationship tab.

For a feature that appears so important I just wish I had more info.

Yeah I wish i had more insight on that one buddy. I think they become mad WAY to fast. Most dont take standing seriously til June. Just wished the players followed the logic.

[umd]

Yeah I wish i had more insight on that one buddy. I think they become mad WAY to fast. Most dont take standing seriously til June. Just wished the players followed the logic.

Hopefully the new version fixes some things under the hood and we switch rather quickly.

[Andrew]

It must be a very fine line between happy or pissed. We had all sorts of morale problems last year and haven't seen any so far this year. We've improved but still have a losing record.

This thread on the OOTP forums lists the personality types: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=256041

If you start a single player game you can go into the editor and see the personality for different types of players. I created a view for personality so I can get a better picture of my whole team.

I think the basic strategy is to limit the number of selfish/slacker/cancer type players and a have a few leaders but I have no idea what the threshold is. I have a few that I definitely think are slackers (low work ethic and desire for winner) and selfish (high greed and low loyalty. Ironically two of my worst personalities (McClain and Corbett) have been my best players.

[umd]

It must be a very fine line between happy or pissed. We had all sorts of morale problems last year and haven't seen any so far this year. We've improved but still have a losing record.

This thread on the OOTP forums lists the personality types: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=256041

If you start a single player game you can go into the editor and see the personality for different types of players. I created a view for personality so I can get a better picture of my whole team.

I think the basic strategy is to limit the number of selfish/slacker/cancer type players and a have a few leaders but I have no idea what the threshold is. I have a few that I definitely think are slackers (low work ethic and desire for winner) and selfish (high greed and low loyalty. Ironically two of my worst personalities (McClain and Corbett) have been my best players.

This is very useful.

[Andrew]

This is the view I use for personality:



Also, I think having a team leader really helps. The email I got from my bench coach indicated that Dave McClain is a problem in the clubhouse but Joey Walz (High leadership, loyalty, work ethic, intelligence) keeps things running smoothly. That being said, Walz was on my roster most of last year so I think winning/losing trumps all.

[Delandis]

It must be a very fine line between happy or pissed. We had all sorts of morale problems last year and haven't seen any so far this year. We've improved but still have a losing record.

This thread on the OOTP forums lists the personality types: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=256041

If you start a single player game you can go into the editor and see the personality for different types of players. I created a view for personality so I can get a better picture of my whole team.

I think the basic strategy is to limit the number of selfish/slacker/cancer type players and a have a few leaders but I have no idea what the threshold is. I have a few that I definitely think are slackers (low work ethic and desire for winner) and selfish (high greed and low loyalty. Ironically two of my worst personalities (McClain and Corbett) have been my best players.

This has always been the case. The only difference is now the game tells you about it.

[umd]

This has always been the case. The only difference is now the game tells you about it.

Nah, something has been tweaked for sure.

[Z]

I get the impression you're both right; that is, it's always been the case that it works this way, but it's been tweaked so the effect is stronger (and we have more information about it).

[Hank]

Awful is when you pay solid starters salary, to your last 5 years solid starters, who won 2 Brewmasters for Dallas, and they play like Dave Grafing before to go to Pawtucket.... That is awful.... Holly cow!!!

Could be worse, you could have all that high priced talent and no BLB championships to speak of.
So lets calm down and review the facts here:
- You're still in the hunt.
- You still have multiple Brewmaster championships
- You were humbled by the mighty Montreal Exports in the opening sim.
- JJLinn is still a dickhead.

I think I hit all the major talking points here.

[PaulC]

I'm not sure why all the moral complaining. When I got the Kodiaks there morale was horrible, after discussing or reading the boards from guys like Z, Matt, or Pat, and getting hosed in early trades I made a conscientious effort to look at the soft ratings and draft a lot of guys (Morla aside) that have high leadership and Intelligence and it seems to be paying off.

Clearly I'm a relative newbie here, but I don't see what stinks about the game being more difficult to play, or that it has changed over time. It's nicer not havin 8 or 10 of the same established franchises in the playoffs every year. And having played and coached a lot of sports (as some of you likely have) team morale is a real issue that good coaches and teams deal with and poor teams can't get a handle on.

And way way off topic... tanking is not a swear word... it's a viable strategy that an owner with the stamina to stink for 3-8 years can use to rebuild.

[umd]

I just want more info as to the game mechanics which is why I asked the questions. Much like you did. After playing for 40 something seasons and 8-10 realyears here I'm entitled to question the mechanics of a game so I can adjust. You view it as "complaining" and "don't get it" but it's called a desire to win not fucking suck for ten seasons to try and win a title.

[Z]

I just want more info as to the game mechanics which is why I asked the questions. Much like you did.

Me too. I feel the same way about the player development and scouting budgets. I felt that way for a long time.

[Delandis]

I just want more info as to the game mechanics which is why I asked the questions. Much like you did. After playing for 40 something seasons and 8-10 realyears here I'm entitled to question the mechanics of a game so I can adjust. You view it as "complaining" and "don't get it" but it's called a desire to win not fucking suck for ten seasons to try and win a title.

I think the opaque nature of the morale and scouting system (with our settings) is the way to go. No way I want OOTP to go the way of FOF where A+B equals C and the same teams win year in-year out because the mathematical code is broken.

We absolutely shouldn't be privy to how everything works together under the hood.

[Pat]

I think the opaque nature of the morale and scouting system (with our settings) is the way to go. No way I want OOTP to go the way of FOF where A+B equals C and the same teams win year in-year out because the mathematical code is broken.

We absolutely shouldn't be privy to how everything works together under the hood.

That's my take as well but I agree with UMD that something has been tweaked and it feels like a different game. Scouting and morale especially.

[Sharkn20]

I think the opaque nature of the morale and scouting system (with our settings) is the way to go. No way I want OOTP to go the way of FOF where A+B equals C and the same teams win year in-year out because the mathematical code is broken.

We absolutely shouldn't be privy to how everything works together under the hood.

FOF8 changed that dramatically with the additions of offensive and defensive gameplans, also Drafting is not an easy thing anymore as masked pairs are no longer aplicable.