Arbitration Question

[Pat]

So when does a player go from being arbitration eligible in the off-season, to being essentially a free-agent? Is it once they reach five years major league service time?

I forget.

[Sully]

So when does a player go from being arbitration eligible in the off-season, to being essentially a free-agent? Is it once they reach five years major league service time?

I forget.

3 years at 280,000
3 years of arbitration
Eligible for free agency after that

[Pat]

Interesting...

Because I have two players who are said to be, "arbitration eligible in the off-season", but when I go to my player salaries page, it doesn't show them as having "arbitration" or a salary for 1983.

Both say on their player pages, "Eligible, but possibly free agent after season!"

[Sully]

Interesting...

Because I have two players who are said to be, "arbitration eligible in the off-season", but when I go to my player salaries page, it doesn't show them as having "arbitration" or a salary for 1983.

Both say on their player pages, "Eligible, but possibly free agent after season!"

Who are they?

[Andrew]

Interesting...

Because I have two players who are said to be, "arbitration eligible in the off-season", but when I go to my player salaries page, it doesn't show them as having "arbitration" or a salary for 1983.

Both say on their player pages, "Eligible, but possibly free agent after season!"

If they pass the 6 year mark during the season they'll be a free agent. Service time accumulates from opening day until the end of the regular season. 172 days = 1 year.

[Pat]

Carl Pateshall SP
Gary Lipincott OF

[Sully]

Carl Pateshall SP
Gary Lipincott OF

Looks like both were 2nd year players when the league began. Not everyone was a rookie. So, they were actually in their second year at 280,000, and this past offseason was their last arbitration-eligible year.

[Pat]

If they pass the 6 year mark during the season they'll be a free agent. Service time accumulates from opening day until the end of the regular season. 172 days = 1 year.

Both of my guys service times are at 5 years....neither will reach the 6 year mark this year...

So, I'm good? Why aren't they showing up as "arbitration" on the player salaries page? Is this something that doesn't show up once they hit 5 years?

[Andrew]

Why aren't they showing up as "arbitration" on the player salaries page? I

Because the game isn't smart enough to realize that it's impossible for them to reach FA this season.

[Sully]

I may be wrong. Looking at Lippincott's history, he's only had 2 contract raises from arbitration.

Pateshall signed a 4 year deal with this prior team, which negates being eligible for arbitration.

[Pat]

Because the game isn't smart enough to realize that it's impossible for them to reach FA this season.

Woo!

Had me really nervous for a bit. Thought I was going to lose a SP and my leadoff hitter.

Wait...so Pateshall isn't eligible?

[Sully]

Because the game isn't smart enough to realize that it's impossible for them to reach FA this season.

I think Pateshall will be a FA. He signed a 4 year deal with Los Alamos back in 78.

[Sully]

Woo!

Had me really nervous for a bit. Thought I was going to lose a SP and my leadoff hitter.

Wait...so Pateshall isn't eligible?

No, I don't think he is.

[Andrew]

I think Pateshall will be a FA. He signed a 4 year deal with Los Alamos back in 78.

I think technically you're right (in real life) but not quite sure how the game handles this. Usually people don't re-sign players during their first 4 years so this never comes up.

Diesel, you might just want to re-sign him to be safe.

[Pat]

Is there anyway I can find out? Or you could?

His re-signing number is going to be big in comparison to his arb number. And I am a bit strapped for cash.