2020 Official Draft Thread - Starting Tues 2/14

[Jake]

A couple thoughts on the draft since 1.1:

1.2: MacDonough was the clear #1 batter to me, and had I not gone on a run over the last 4-5 seasons of falling heavily into a lot of hitters, I would have considered him more.

1.3: Not sure if squid would have gone with Stokes here, but cheap enough move to get your guy if Davenport truly loves him. I like Stokes, and tried to convince myself to look at him at 1.1. In game is my scout's #2, my system has him at the #2 pitcher, but I couldn't get over the stamina worries. I did click on his HTML profile and he's listed at 5 now, but I'm still seeing 4 in game.

1.4: Speaking of value to get your guy (that Pat wasn't sure he wanted), I think a 3rd rounder to get Bernardi here (whether or not D would have taken him) is a steal. A ton to love about this guy outside of a minor intelligence issue, which I believe can affect pitchers development and performance.

1.5: My draft system (and scout) see Whaley somewhat differently. My crappy system spits him out at the #15 hitter, #21 overall, mostly due to my scout's numerical ratings as a hitter. In game, my scout has him at #20 overall. It's probably time I weighted OSA a little more heavily in my formula.

1.6: Paton is nice. 5th hitter in my formula but I rate him higher. Nice intangibles, 20 yrs old already, and decent enough in the field, too.

1.7: Sometimes my crappy formula really likes guys for no apparent reason, and sometimes it hates them. It hates Banda. Has him at #74 overall. I overvalue power though, and my scout thinks Banda strides to the plate with a ThunderStix from a minor league game.

1.8: Joey Maney is a nice pick here, but I don't think he'll ever be elite. So, you can mark him down as a HOF.

1.9: My scout sees Mangan as a top 10 pick, and I tend to agree. Likes his defense a lot more than OSA as well.

[Z]

A couple thoughts on the draft since 1.1:

1.2: MacDonough was the clear #1 batter to me, and had I not gone on a run over the last 4-5 seasons of falling heavily into a lot of hitters, I would have considered him more.

1.3: Not sure if squid would have gone with Stokes here, but cheap enough move to get your guy if Davenport truly loves him. I like Stokes, and tried to convince myself to look at him at 1.1. In game is my scout's #2, my system has him at the #2 pitcher, but I couldn't get over the stamina worries. I did click on his HTML profile and he's listed at 5 now, but I'm still seeing 4 in game.

1.4: Speaking of value to get your guy (that Pat wasn't sure he wanted), I think a 3rd rounder to get Bernardi here (whether or not D would have taken him) is a steal. A ton to love about this guy outside of a minor intelligence issue, which I believe can affect pitchers development and performance.

1.5: My draft system (and scout) see Whaley somewhat differently. My crappy system spits him out at the #15 hitter, #21 overall, mostly due to my scout's numerical ratings as a hitter. In game, my scout has him at #20 overall. It's probably time I weighted OSA a little more heavily in my formula.

1.6: Paton is nice. 5th hitter in my formula but I rate him higher. Nice intangibles, 20 yrs old already, and decent enough in the field, too.

1.7: Sometimes my crappy formula really likes guys for no apparent reason, and sometimes it hates them. It hates Banda. Has him at #74 overall. I overvalue power though, and my scout thinks Banda strides to the plate with a ThunderStix from a minor league game.

1.8: Joey Maney is a nice pick here, but I don't think he'll ever be elite. So, you can mark him down as a HOF.

1.9: My scout sees Mangan as a top 10 pick, and I tend to agree. Likes his defense a lot more than OSA as well.

I just don't know how seriously to take these draft lists.

There are guys my scout thinks are future Hall of Famers but whom he ranks in the 20s. And then there are unremarkable relief pitchers in his top ten.

[Carlos]

I expect Banda to be an unpopular pick but he's someone my scout and OSA liked. And he comes after several guys that both liked but either couldn't field (seriously it's always mattered to us even if it doesn't show) or were missing the kind of things I feel make a hitter successful even without power.

Banda is like the outfield speedy version of Banuelos. No power but he doesn't strike out and hits for the gaps. I'll take it.

Healey is like that. Same with Ichikawa. I guess I have a thing for those types.

[Jake]

Agreed. I'll say this, and it's an incredibly small sample size, but in two or three situations my scout (not my current one) has listed a guy in the top 2-3 that I've taken late in the first or early in the second that has turned out to be legit. rub Martinez and Richard Velasquez come to mind. I do think it (in game list) seems to overvalue SP though.

[Jake]

I expect Banda to be an unpopular pick but he's someone my scout and OSA liked. And he comes after several guys that both liked but either couldn't field (seriously it's always mattered to us even if it doesn't show) or were missing the kind of things I feel make a hitter successful even without power.

Banda is like the outfield speedy version of Banuelos. No power but he doesn't strike out and hits for the gaps. I'll take it.

Healey is like that. Same with Ichikawa. I guess I have a thing for those types.

[liquidcrash]

There are guys my scout thinks are future Hall of Famers but whom he ranks in the 20s. And then there are unremarkable relief pitchers in his top ten.

I don't remember seeing relief pitchers highly on my scout's list before this year. In fact, they usually didn't get ranked at all. Something appears to have changed, or he knows something I don't.

[Sully]

I wanted Mangan. Had him second best hitter.

[Andrew]

I expect Banda to be an unpopular pick but he's someone my scout and OSA liked. And he comes after several guys that both liked but either couldn't field (seriously it's always mattered to us even if it doesn't show) or were missing the kind of things I feel make a hitter successful even without power.

Banda is like the outfield speedy version of Banuelos. No power but he doesn't strike out and hits for the gaps. I'll take it.

Healey is like that. Same with Ichikawa. I guess I have a thing for those types.

I actually liked the Banda pick. My scout had him rated slightly higher than OSA.

[Sharkn20]

This waiting is horrible... I hope JJ Williams will worth it...

O.P. Williams is paying of so far...

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[Carlos]

Agreed. I'll say this, and it's an incredibly small sample size, but in two or three situations my scout (not my current one) has listed a guy in the top 2-3 that I've taken late in the first or early in the second that has turned out to be legit. rub Martinez and Richard Velasquez come to mind. I do think it (in game list) seems to overvalue SP though.

I hate when the list ranks relief pitchers high and tells me they are starters.

If you have two pitches and a 3 stamina, you're not a starter.

I actually liked the Banda pick. My scout had him rated slightly higher than OSA.

I respect your drafting so this is nice to hear. I hope he doesn't disappoint.

[Carlos]

Damn, how much you pay for your wife?

[fsquid]

I'm glad you liked him at this spot.

Always concerned with CFers as Pat mentioned. Defense is important but man does OOTP overvalue it to the point guys that shouldn't be in the league are rated higher than others. Part of my concern with Jimmy McGraw.

But an up-the-middle bat is important.

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Since I like another up-the-middle bat, I'm interested in trading back into the first if anyone is looking to trade it.

I didn't like him at that spot, that's why I traded down. I thought he would fall lower. Heck, I think my pick at #8 was a reach. My issue was too many young SPs in my system, I need some bats!

[Z]

Maney has a lot of pop for such a little guy.

[fsquid]

Maney has a lot of pop for such a little guy.

yea, wish I had more than 2 years of stats to go off of.

[Nemesis]

I wanted Mangan. Had him second best hitter.

I hope that's a good sign. Cuz I'm a rookie at this OOTP drafting stuff. :)