2020 Offseason SIM 4 (FA3) Complete - Next SIM Mon 1/30

[funclown]

I don't think we know what we want.

Never before and never again will a GM ever nail the moment.

In the end I think we are just against dynasties. Again, its cool either way.

GREAT STATEMENT UMD.

[Pat]

The Pilots complete their off-season by signing Seattle-born bench coach Ed Munce.

Let me know when the season starts...or the draft class is announced.

[PaulC]

This.

We want to keep our homegrown players at "reasonable" prices (whatever that means) AND we don't want to pay players in FA.

The bottomline is that we are cheap and is there really anything wrong with that? Probably just a damn good reflection of reality.

Agreed. $15 million a season is still a large chunk of salary for most teams that don't have a payroll in the $100+ million range. I thought the purpose was to avoid the 6 year $20 million dollar contracts and the 6 year $$150 million contracts. This would seem to have done that.

[PaulC]

Umm, isn't this exactly the reason we had the 3 stamp rule?

As long as everyone is good with it.

I'll add, I have no problems with Williams's contract. I'm only pointing out that "discounts" is what we don't want.

Wasn't Williams 3 stamp anyway? Wouldn't he have got this contract for other way?!

[PaulC]

We don't.

We just have a different tolerance for risk.

I think tolerance for risk is directly proportional to payroll and budget size.

[umd]

I think tolerance for risk is directly proportional to payroll and budget size.

Not necessarily. Even one bad contract on a big budget team is killer if they are trying to compete for a title. That's one more roleplayer or a hole that could otherwise be filled with the money. Often times there aren't young cheap players ready to fill those spots because they've been traded for established vets in a title push.

[Delandis]

I think tolerance for risk is directly proportional to payroll and budget size.

And budget size is EARNED by sustained success.

[PaulC]

Not necessarily. Even one bad contract on a big budget team is killer if they are trying to compete for a title. That's one more roleplayer or a hole that could otherwise be filled with the money. Often times there aren't young cheap players ready to fill those spots because they've been traded for established vets in a title push.

Agreed, but they are often then able to be unloaded for draft picks in many instances in the future.

[PaulC]

And budget size is EARNED by sustained success.

No one is arguing that you haven't EARNED a larger budget. I'm just saying that it enables a team to take larger risks...

[Matt]

Never before and never again will a GM ever nail the moment.

In the end I think we are just against dynasties. Again, its cool either way.

GREAT STATEMENT UMD.

We're against unfair contracts given out because OOTP couldn't judge talent. It started with Travis Neal and you (along with others) continued it on with about 6 more signings, which yes allowed a dynasty. So yes if paying superstars $5m a year (TJ Dunn) because you can manipulate the game creates dynasties then you are correct, I don't want dynasties.

After looking at other leagues and posts on the OOTP boards the league voted for the 1st Arb stamp. So I'd say we wanted that. It's now at 2 due to a league office mandate. Carlos brought up a contract today saying that 2 is "what we don't want" when the guy already had 3 stamps.

If someone wants to try and change financials then please write a proposal. But please do two things first. One, contact Brad. He knows and understands financials more than anyone. Two, start a SP league. Change the financials to what the BLB has, and run lots of tests. This way you can see for the most part what will happen as well as share it with everyone else. I'm all for voting yes to anything as long as I can see the results.

[Carlos]

Guys, I mistakenly thought it was a 2 stamp contract and shark was saying he took advantage of it.

This was resolved hours ago. I have no idea why it's still going on.

[Delandis]

Guys, I mistakenly thought it was a 2 stamp contract and shark was saying he took advantage of it.

This was resolved hours ago. I have no idea why it's still going on.

It's the off-season.

[BradZ]

Guys, I mistakenly thought it was a 2 stamp contract and shark was saying he took advantage of it.

This was resolved hours ago. I have no idea why it's still going on.

Because you didn't use a trigger warning.

And this:

It's the off-season.

And, because it's the BLB.

[Pat]

Guys, I mistakenly thought it was a 2 stamp contract and shark was saying he took advantage of it.

This was resolved hours ago. I have no idea why it's still going on.

I still love Carlos.

[funclown]

We're against unfair contracts given out because OOTP couldn't judge talent. It started with Travis Neal and you (along with others) continued it on with about 6 more signings, which yes allowed a dynasty. So yes if paying superstars $5m a year (TJ Dunn) because you can manipulate the game creates dynasties then you are correct, I don't want dynasties.

After looking at other leagues and posts on the OOTP boards the league voted for the 1st Arb stamp. So I'd say we wanted that. It's now at 2 due to a league office mandate. Carlos brought up a contract today saying that 2 is "what we don't want" when the guy already had 3 stamps.

If someone wants to try and change financials then please write a proposal. But please do two things first. One, contact Brad. He knows and understands financials more than anyone. Two, start a SP league. Change the financials to what the BLB has, and run lots of tests. This way you can see for the most part what will happen as well as share it with everyone else. I'm all for voting yes to anything as long as I can see the results.

- I'm really cool with anything. I still think UMD's statement isn't wrong. As time goes we just need to adapt to whatever.

Right now I'm on some weird 2025 range while attempting a soft tank. Not even sure what time of team I want to be in the future so all is good.