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  • #16
    Originally posted by PaulC View Post
    And for only $6 million.

    I know I've asked this before, but he is in year 5 in the BLB (3 years at 280K) and only in his first year of arbitration yet some players (Filar and shortly Wescott) hit that in their fourth year (only two years at $280K). Do I have something setup incorrectly or am I just somehow paying guys a season earlier than I need to.

    I'm hoping to clear up my misunderstanding as this rebuild in California is hopefully nearing an end.
    What Brad wrote is true (and especially true for Westcott) but there's also a little thing called service days.

    Stu Stark was promoted in 2013, later into the season. He did not accumulate enough service days to qualify as a full year of service.

    Because of that, he walked into 2014 as if that was his first year, according to service days.

    Service days play perhaps the largest role in arbitration especially since Brad's example only affects 22% of the players in the league.

    Filar is a prime example of a guy that doesn't fit Westcott's reasoning (Westcott is most especially a Super Two considering he played 162 games in his rookie year and with his current games played in season 2 is undoubtedly within the top 22% of cumulative service days for a player in his promotion year) but does fit the mold of someone that was promoted a bit too early in 2014 and accumulated just enough service days to count the year as a full season.

    So he accumulated enough service days on the 40-man roster by the time 2016 finished and he was eligible for his first year of arbitration, which he's now playing.

    This is the same issue I'm running into now with Dave Smith who started 32 games in 2015 (so he was definitely on the roster long enough to accumulate the service days for a full year) and in his 4th season will be making his first arbitration money.

    Whereas Manny Reyna was promoted late enough in the 2014 season to not accumulate enough service days and will be in his 5th season making his first arbitration dollars.

    (see: Kris Bryant for an example of this in real life)
    Last edited by Carlos; 07-28-2016, 03:22 PM.
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    • #17
      So in other words, I should be jerking my rookies around and hiding them in the minors for a little bit.

      Once again, thanks for helping me figure this game out. It has been a blast so far, even though I can't GM worth a shit to this point.
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      • #18
        Sure a lot of Stu Stark talking going on. Stu doesn't like this. The Batavia organization doesn't like this. Let's just let Stu's bat do all the talking.

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        • #19
          The two 23 year old 1B that will be linked for some time...DJ Gosser of Baltimore and Milt Stoll of Batavia...are having very similar seasons. Rival teams, rival managers, Baltimore traded up with Batavia to grab Gosser, both fighting for the final playoff spot.

          Stoll

          .273/.338/.489/.827 with 25 HR and 78 RBI

          Gosser

          .277/.339/.506/.845 with 25 HR and 85 RBI

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Matt View Post
            The two 23 year old 1B that will be linked for some time...DJ Gosser of Baltimore and Milt Stoll of Batavia...are having very similar seasons. Rival teams, rival managers, Baltimore traded up with Batavia to grab Gosser, both fighting for the final playoff spot.

            Stoll

            .273/.338/.489/.827 with 25 HR and 78 RBI

            Gosser

            .277/.339/.506/.845 with 25 HR and 85 RBI

            Now if my Stu Stark would come off the DL then it would be a fair fight.


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            - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
            - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
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            • #21
              We probably should have a thread with career comparisons for guys like this.


              In Baltimore the first that come to mind are

              Chiba/Haraguchi
              and
              Nelson/Sanchez


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              - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
              - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
              - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Delandis View Post
                We probably should have a thread with career comparisons for guys like this.


                In Baltimore the first that come to mind are

                Chiba/Haraguchi
                and
                Nelson/Sanchez
                Brummett/English
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                Division Champs '05 '07 '08 '11 '13 '14 '15 '16 '19
                IL WC '09 '10 '12 '17

                IL Champs '13 '16 '19
                Stout Slugger '08 (Jones) '15 (McCarley)
                Last Call '08 (Manning)
                New Brew '08 (Pulido)
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                • #23
                  funclown/Clay

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                  • #24
                    The pitchers of the 2005 draft definitely belong here.
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                    • #25
                      I think the '94 draft was ranked pretty well for pitchers.


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                      - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                      - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                      - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                      • #26
                        Well September is going to be really interesting for once in New York.

                        Eddie Romero is injured so rookie Omar Baber is going to be starting everyday at shortstop.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Matt View Post
                          The two 23 year old 1B that will be linked for some time...DJ Gosser of Baltimore and Milt Stoll of Batavia...are having very similar seasons. Rival teams, rival managers, Baltimore traded up with Batavia to grab Gosser, both fighting for the final playoff spot.

                          Stoll

                          .273/.338/.489/.827 with 25 HR and 78 RBI

                          Gosser

                          .277/.339/.506/.845 with 25 HR and 85 RBI
                          "Ouch!" says potential flash in the pan Dave Wescott.
                          GM California Kodiaks 2014 - Present
                          Brewmaster's Cup Champions 2036, 2043


                          GM Edmonton Herd 1987 - Present
                          Brewmaster's Bowl Champions - 1990


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                          Brewmaster's Ice Cup Champions 1979/80

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                          • #28
                            This might be the biggest sim of the year so far. Seven day sim. Expanded rosters. Pennant chase has begun!

                            Seattle has one more game to finish in Denver, then hosts New York before traveling to Washington. Will need a very good showing to keep pace with Death Valley in the Bock, who faces much easier competition in Windy City/Denver.

                            Good luck and health to all contenders!
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by PaulC View Post
                              "Ouch!" says potential flash in the pan Dave Wescott.


                              We don't recognize the accomplishments of traitors.


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                              - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                              - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                              - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                              • #30
                                Hard week for the Sharks! We really need to step up and gain some more ground, #NoWCGamesForUsThisYearThanks !

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