2016 Brewmaster's 1 SIM Complete - Next SIM Sun AM

[funclown]

They brought in $144 million this year, which makes me think they should be able to increase their payroll for next year.

But they lost money last year, which makes me wonder how they found an extra $14 million for this year.

I'm still trying to sift thru it cuz last year it shows we MADE 5 million ,(the accouting ledger is so MUCH better) but then 7 ml in revenue sharing. My payroll is also stable basically from last season.

Bottom line, got a trade that will free up about 10 million, getting an extra 5 million, bottoming out our PD and scouting and also might be letting some guys go.

We will be ok.....but not great.

[Sharkn20]

I think am bringing everyone back one more year (but Herrera) through arbitration, I want to cover my ass for the expansion draft and the new teams with plenty money to play with...

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[funclown]

Are you saying that he was able to increase his 2016 payroll despite a negative 2015 balance because of projected 2016 profits?

Seems the projected budget allows for it, but thats not locked down either until after the season tickets are tallied. Also, expect a $.18 increase per ticket. Last year my projected gate increase was about 20%. Seems inline with our increase in actual revenue.

Lol, gonna need an accountant soon.

[Delandis]

Are you saying that he was able to increase his 2016 payroll despite a negative 2015 balance because of projected 2016 profits?

No.

I'm saying he was able to increase 2016 payroll based on actual 2016 revenue despite a negative 2015 balance. Budgets don't mean anything as we allow owners to trade for salaries above our budgets.

He just made a shitload of playoff money, and was able to cover the increase in payroll.

[funclown]

No.

I'm saying he was able to increase 2016 payroll based on actual 2016 revenue despite a negative 2015 balance. Budgets don't mean anything as we allow owners to trade for salaries above our budgets.

He just made a shitload of playoff money, and was able to cover the increase in payroll.

Delandis just said it. lol.

And if you noticed ALL my players were acquire by trade. Yes, it was a small gamble thinking we'd be able to cover it. Turns out we were -2 million short.

[Delandis]

Delandis just said it. lol.

I like numbers.

[Z]

No.

I'm saying he was able to increase 2016 payroll based on actual 2016 revenue despite a negative 2015 balance. Budgets don't mean anything as we allow owners to trade for salaries above our budgets.

He just made a shitload of playoff money, and was able to cover the increase in payroll.

What I mean is there doesn't seem to be any consequence for trading for salaries above your budget.

I would think at some point it catches up with you, but I don't see it happening to teams.

Maybe I'm just not good at thinking about team accounting.

I don't understand how a team can start a season with negative money in the bank and still find a way to increase the amount of money they're spending. It doesn't make sense to me.

[Ryan]

What I mean is there doesn't seem to be any consequence for trading for salaries above your budget.

I would think at some point it catches up with you, but I don't see it happening to teams.

Maybe I'm just not good at thinking about team accounting.

I don't understand how a team can start a season with negative money in the bank and still find a way to increase the amount of money they're spending. It doesn't make sense to me.

Pretty sure it happened to me last off season, and it's happening again because of the trades I made that pushed me into the red.

So, per my understanding, if I had finished the season in the red $10MM, but made 10MM in playoff revenue, I'd come out clean. Even, but clean.

That didn't happen this year. In fact, I should have sold, but we decided to play to our potential at the wrong time.

And it will have an impact going forward, because it's seen as a deficit, so it will affect what I have to spend this off season.

[BradZ]

What I mean is there doesn't seem to be any consequence for trading for salaries above your budget.

I would think at some point it catches up with you, but I don't see it happening to teams.

It happened to me. I traded away Morales, Sanchez, etc prior to this season because I had overextended myself in prior years.

It's the owner's choice to do deficit spending by way of trade. There is no get out of jail free card anymore.

[Delandis]

What I mean is there doesn't seem to be any consequence for trading for salaries above your budget.

I would think at some point it catches up with you, but I don't see it happening to teams.

Maybe I'm just not good at thinking about team accounting.

I don't understand how a team can start a season with negative money in the bank and still find a way to increase the amount of money they're spending. It doesn't make sense to me.

I think we discussed trading salaries that put teams into a negative balance in a proposal that someone (maybe Pat) brought up.

It was unceremoniously swatted down.

[funclown]

I would think at some point it catches up with you, but I don't see it happening to teams.

Maybe I'm just not good at thinking about team accounting.

generally the active teams can find ways to shed salary. ironically via trading with the rebuilding teams. pitt and indy as an example of spending. now i know Mike, he will turn over his roster cuz if you don't then eventually you end up losing everyone to free agency. (See Syracuse 14 & 15)

[Z]

It happened to me. I traded away Morales, Sanchez, etc prior to this season because I had overextended myself in prior years.

It's the owner's choice to do deficit spending by way of trade. There is no get out of jail free card anymore.

How does Pittsburgh pull it off multiple years in a row? Are you suggesting that franchise is in for a painful crossroads financially in the near future?

[BradZ]

How does Pittsburgh pull it off multiple years in a row? Are you suggesting that franchise is in for a painful crossroads financially in the near future?

When I get home, I'll take a look and let you know.

[Ryan]

How does Pittsburgh pull it off multiple years in a row? Are you suggesting that franchise is in for a painful crossroads financially in the near future?

Potentially. You're basically borrowing from current/future seasons revenue or earning ability.

[Ryan]

When I get home, I'll take a look and let you know.

Can you leave now? This is a pretty good topic.