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  • Originally posted by Delandis View Post
    In Pawtucket's case they brought in 144MM. That's tremendous for our universe. I think even in my 2001 championship season I only made 134MM.
    Yeah we had HUGE fan interest 99%, one of the highest season ticket sales and yeah were on a pretty good run right now. Also, playoff money big plus. 2015 was kind of stupid. $12 a ticket.
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    Wildcard 91, 95, 12


    ** Partial credit. Ran in Expo mode.

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    • Originally posted by funclown View Post
      The top and bottom seem to have a bit more distance to them today.
      I added 2014 to my post as well which is somewhere in the middle.

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      • Originally posted by funclown View Post
        The top and bottom seem to have a bit more distance to them today.
        Owners cannot put a poor team together and expect to make money.

        The longer teams wait to try and compete, the bigger the gap becomes. Then you have team that are big AND fiscally responsible like DVS. That is why it is so hard for anyone in the Bock to catch him. That is the drawback of bottoming out.

        You can't have it both ways.


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        - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
        - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
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        • I don't understand financials enough to really comment.

          I guess I don't mind giving up $7m since I have one of the highest budgets in the league. If it keeps things somewhat level that is fine with me. I remember when I first took over and just got crushed market wise. We had the worst record in the BLB in 2000 after blowing it up because we didn't have the money to compete. With 14 straight winning seasons, 6 playoff appearances, and two rings we are in the upper level now.

          I don't want to see some teams with $50m more to spend, but I also want to see the money based somewhat on winning and losing.

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          • Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post
            Indianapolis and Pittsburgh lost $20 million. Yikes.
            In revenue sharing? Good lawd!


            EDIT: Duh, I'm sure I lost that much due to being in the red this season. I'm a bad owner.
            Last edited by Ryan; 05-26-2016, 11:35 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Delandis View Post
              Owners cannot put a poor team together and expect to make money.

              The longer teams wait to try and compete, the bigger the gap becomes. Then you have team that are big AND fiscally responsible (DVS). That is why it is so hard for anyone in the Bock to catch him. That is the drawback of bottoming out.

              You can't have it both ways.
              I haven't run a deficit since I went from 42 wins to 114 wins or whatever. Then I only ran that deficit for that 114 win season to add players for that particular playoff run.

              Every season I've been fiscally responsible, but I seem to keep giving money away. My team budget, I believe outside maybe one season here or there, has never had a payroll over $120-122m. That includes not putting all zeros in for scouting and PD. I've never done that as I think it's not fair play, personally speaking.

              I feel like whatever money I make never finds it's way to cash. OOTP gives it to my owner - i.e. I lose it. Or it goes to losing teams through revenue sharing i.e. - I lose it.

              Losing teams and small teams should have disposable income too, but not at the expense of profitable teams.
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              • Originally posted by BradZ View Post
                There is. You carry your negative debt and it hampers your ability to operate.
                This is correct.

                Fortunately, no one here wants to just print more money.

                Teams that continue to run a deficit will have to eventually pay the piper for a year or two. However, we do need to get rid of that 5MM bailout to stop the rich from getting richer.


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                - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
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                • Originally posted by Carlos View Post
                  Is it possible that the top of the list has more money and the bottom has less?
                  Running more statistics, the 8 playoff teams (excluding the wild card losers) had revenue increases of $94.5m in 2016 vs $58.8m in 2015. It definitely pays to make the playoffs in OOTP 16.

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                  • Originally posted by Carlos View Post
                    For example, in the report saying Money for Extensions. It simply says none. That doesn't actually help. How much do I need to get to $1? I know the answer but only when I click on Offer Contract and then it tells me that this offer will put you this much more in debt.
                    There should be an Accounting Tab in your front office that should have your balance. That should be the amount you need to get back to black.


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                    - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                    - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                    - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                    • Originally posted by Andrew View Post
                      Running more statistics, the 8 playoff teams (excluding the wild card losers) had revenue increases of $94.5m in 2016 vs $58.8m in 2015. It definitely pays to make the playoffs in OOTP 16.
                      Yep. Playoff revenue was doubled by design in 16.


                      Baltimore Bulldogs - BLB since '84
                      - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                      - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                      - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                      • Originally posted by Delandis View Post
                        In Pawtucket's case they brought in 144MM. That's tremendous for our universe. I think even in my 2001 championship season I only made 134MM.
                        They brought in $144 million this year, which makes me think they should be able to increase their payroll for next year.

                        But they lost money last year, which makes me wonder how they found an extra $14 million for this year.
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                        • Originally posted by Matt View Post
                          I don't understand financials enough to really comment.

                          I guess I don't mind giving up $7m since I have one of the highest budgets in the league. If it keeps things somewhat level that is fine with me. I remember when I first took over and just got crushed market wise. We had the worst record in the BLB in 2000 after blowing it up because we didn't have the money to compete. With 14 straight winning seasons, 6 playoff appearances, and two rings we are in the upper level now.

                          I don't want to see some teams with $50m more to spend, but I also want to see the money based somewhat on winning and losing.
                          I agree with all of this.
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                          Division Champs '05 '07 '08 '11 '13 '14 '15 '16 '19
                          IL WC '09 '10 '12 '17

                          IL Champs '13 '16 '19
                          Stout Slugger '08 (Jones) '15 (McCarley)
                          Last Call '08 (Manning)
                          New Brew '08 (Pulido)
                          Desert Legends
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                          • Originally posted by TheLetterZ View Post
                            They brought in $144 million this year, which makes me think they should be able to increase their payroll for next year.

                            But they lost money last year, which makes me wonder how they found an extra $14 million for this year.
                            Playoff revenue and it is likely Clown decided to make the loyal Patriots pay through the nose at the gate this year vs. last.


                            Baltimore Bulldogs - BLB since '84
                            - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                            - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                            - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                            • Originally posted by Andrew View Post
                              Running more statistics, the 8 playoff teams (excluding the wild card losers) had revenue increases of $94.5m in 2016 vs $58.8m in 2015. It definitely pays to make the playoffs in OOTP 16.
                              Where did the revenue go though, I guess I'm confused. My cash hasn't increased, my money for extensions or FA hasn't budged much, and scouting and PD is still the same... My payroll remains at $112 to 118m every season...
                              Death Valley Scorpions (2003-Present)
                              Division Champs '05 '07 '08 '11 '13 '14 '15 '16 '19
                              IL WC '09 '10 '12 '17

                              IL Champs '13 '16 '19
                              Stout Slugger '08 (Jones) '15 (McCarley)
                              Last Call '08 (Manning)
                              New Brew '08 (Pulido)
                              Desert Legends
                              #33 Danny Salcedo ('15) #30 Colin Cash ('16) #32 Brendan Lindsey ('17)



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                              • Originally posted by Delandis View Post
                                Playoff revenue and it is likely Clown decided to make the loyal Patriots pay through the nose at the gate this year vs. last.
                                Are you saying that he was able to increase his 2016 payroll despite a negative 2015 balance because of projected 2016 profits?
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                                Ale Division Champions: 2000, 2001, 2008, 2009, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2053
                                Domestic League Champions: 2006, 2011, 2018, 2028, 2029, 2031, 2052
                                Brewmaster's Cup Champions: 2006, 2018, 2028, 2031
                                8 Bermeo | 9 Hiraki | 10 Davila | 15 Kubota | 17 O'Moore | 18 Sanchez | 21 Cleary | 26 Memmoli
                                30 Suarez | 32 Gutierrez | 34 Suarez | 45 Corrigan | 47 Hernandez | 66 Alvarez

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