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  • #46
    I would like that as well.

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    • #47
      I would be agree for a stats only league too. Let's play this game as real as we can.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by umd View Post
        Stats only would be cool. The learning curve might be pretty steep for new guys.
        Not just the new guys. I'd have some difficulties at first. I still would be interested though.
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        • #49
          The issue I have with Stats Only is we don't get any scout opinions which is completely unrealistic. Even in real life, scouts tell management if a player is expected to be a 65 out of 80 power hitter.

          How would we know that with Stats Only?

          What I have seen done is Potential Only which at least mimics this but keeps us blind from knowing where a player truly is. It's interesting when a guy is 38 years-old and you're deciding if he's still a 6 contact or if your star prospect has reached his 7 power potential.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Carlos View Post
            The issue I have with Stats Only is we don't get any scout opinions which is completely unrealistic. Even in real life, scouts tell management if a player is expected to be a 65 out of 80 power hitter.

            How would we know that with Stats Only?

            What I have seen done is Potential Only which at least mimics this but keeps us blind from knowing where a player truly is. It's interesting when a guy is 38 years-old and you're deciding if he's still a 6 contact or if your star prospect has reached his 7 power potential.
            Oh, that changes things. I expected the scout doing his recommendations...

            On the other hand it will be more money for the budget then. No scouting reports, no ratings, scout useless, don't required, no scouting budget

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            • #51
              Stats

              I base my decisions on stats now. I only use the ratings to back up what the stats are telling me. Having said that, I did finish dead last... But Filar got to 30 and 100. 23 years old and 59 home runs. Not bad for 5 5 6 4 5 ratings.
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              • #52
                I'm actually kind of surprised about the positive outlooks on no scouting.

                And I can see the point with potential ratings. I wouldn't expect the league to make a fundamental change like that, but the responses are encouraging to revisit this somewhere on down the line.


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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Delandis View Post
                  I'm actually kind of surprised about the positive outlooks on no scouting.

                  And I can see the point with potential ratings. I wouldn't expect the league to make a fundamental change like that, but the responses are encouraging to revisit this somewhere on down the line.
                  It's worth having the discussion.
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                  • #54
                    At the end of the day, i look at the stats. We have all seen players under and overachieve based on what their ratings tell you. Its the stats that tell you the whole story.

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                    • #55
                      I agree on stats but remember the stats we've seen on guys with good and bad ratings.

                      I've seen guys with 15 home runs in college that supposedly have no power. I've seen the reverse as well.

                      Pat St. Thomas hit .383(!!) his senior season. Wouldn't you draft him expecting him to be a great contact hitter? He's a career .240 hitter.

                      What did Daryl Dellinger prove in his one year of high school baseball? Nothing.

                      I guess we could consider guys like him to be late round diamonds which is cool. But I also think you'll see more guys trading draft picks with so much randomness out there.

                      I'm not against it. Would definitely make the game harder. It's interesting. Only pointing out the kind of things guys need to be aware of if such a change occurred.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Carlos View Post
                        I agree on stats but remember the stats we've seen on guys with good and bad ratings.

                        I've seen guys with 15 home runs in college that supposedly have no power. I've seen the reverse as well.

                        Pat St. Thomas hit .383(!!) his senior season. Wouldn't you draft him expecting him to be a great contact hitter? He's a career .240 hitter.

                        What did Daryl Dellinger prove in his one year of high school baseball? Nothing.

                        I guess we could consider guys like him to be late round diamonds which is cool. But I also think you'll see more guys trading draft picks with so much randomness out there.

                        I'm not against it. Would definitely make the game harder. It's interesting. Only pointing out the kind of things guys need to be aware of if such a change occurred.
                        Make the game harder is the point. Challenge ourselves, you guys are very good and I want to learn from the best!

                        Shall we vote?? Maybe we can switch versions and gameplay?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Carlos View Post
                          I agree on stats but remember the stats we've seen on guys with good and bad ratings.

                          I've seen guys with 15 home runs in college that supposedly have no power. I've seen the reverse as well.

                          Pat St. Thomas hit .383(!!) his senior season. Wouldn't you draft him expecting him to be a great contact hitter? He's a career .240 hitter.

                          What did Daryl Dellinger prove in his one year of high school baseball? Nothing.

                          I guess we could consider guys like him to be late round diamonds which is cool. But I also think you'll see more guys trading draft picks with so much randomness out there.

                          I'm not against it. Would definitely make the game harder. It's interesting. Only pointing out the kind of things guys need to be aware of if such a change occurred.
                          Good points. I also like your idea about leaving the potential for players active.

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                          • #58
                            This probably should have its own thread now.


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                            • #59
                              Not sure I'm a fan of the stats only, scouting is a huge part of the game. Without it you're just looking at numbers

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by mike View Post
                                Not sure I'm a fan of the stats only, scouting is a huge part of the game. Without it you're just looking at numbers
                                Stats + potential rating is the best way I think. Just take the current rating off. Free agency will be very interesting as Bdub pointed

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