2015 SPRING TRAINING SIM 2 Complete - Next SIM Sun 01/17

[Delandis]

Who the fuck is Gustavo Torruella and why does he earn $10 million after hitting .266 with 15 home runs last year?

He was an All-Star in 2013.

[Z]

He was an All-Star in 2013.

Yes, which I imagine is why his arbitration contract following the 2013 season was $2.9 million.

It doesn't explain why he jumped from earning $2.9 million to $10 million after the following (mediocre) season.

[PaulC]

Arbitration Problem

That's the one problem I see with not being able to sign players to team friendly deals earlier. An arbitrator giving Tom Churchill 14 million for a .250 average and 11 home runs. It's a killer for a team with a limited payroll. It'd be nice if there was a happy median between signing guys too young and too cheap and having to let your older guys walk away because the arbitration is such a crap shoot.

Or perhaps...

California just needs better management!

[Delandis]

Yes, which I imagine is why his arbitration contract following the 2013 season was $2.9 million.

It doesn't explain why he jumped from earning $2.9 million to $10 million after the following (mediocre) season.

I don't know. It is about the average for guys in that price range in the new BLB. Suarez, Sanchez, McLamore all had similar production and make about the same amount.


Did he win arbitration from a lowball offer?

[Sharkn20]

Don't tell me about McLamore, he signed his $22M+ per 2 seasons and then he dropped one in eye and contact....

Drunken

He must have to do something over .250 to make me kind of happy, if not twitter will react!

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[Z]

I don't know. It is about the average for guys in that price range in the new BLB. Suarez, Sanchez, McLamore all had similar production and make about the same amount.

Did he win arbitration from a lowball offer?

Suarez? He played 53 games. He signed his contract after hitting .310 with 21 HR and winning a DWI.

Sanchez ... Oscar Sanchez? I don't know how you got him to sign that below-market contract. Regardless, I'm not sure by what standard his production is similar to Torruella's.

McLamore hit .284 with 12 HR ... in 91 games.

All that is a far cry from Torruella's .266, 15 HR, and league-worst defense in center.

Maybe it was the response to a super low ball offer in arbitration. I don't know. Just seems crazy for a guy who was as bad as Torruella last year (0.8 WAR in a full season) to get a $7 million raise.

I don't think he's a bad player, especially in right. I was looking at him in response to Suarez's concussion. I just don't understand the raise.

[Delandis]

Suarez? He played 53 games. He signed his contract after hitting .310 with 21 HR and winning a DWI.

Sanchez ... Oscar Sanchez? I don't know how you got him to sign that below-market contract. Regardless, I'm not sure by what standard his production is similar to Torruella's.

McLamore hit .284 with 12 HR ... in 91 games.

All that is a far cry from Torruella's .266, 15 HR, and league-worst defense in center.

Maybe it was the response to a super low ball offer in arbitration. I don't know. Just seems crazy for a guy who was as bad as Torruella last year (0.8 WAR in a full season) to get a $7 million raise.

I don't think he's a bad player, especially in right. I was looking at him in response to Suarez's concussion. I just don't understand the raise.

I doubt the AI makes that detailed of an evaluation.

All I did was sift through comparable contracts based on VORP and OPS+. Crude, but I think it shows how, especially if he was lowballed, the AI could come to the conclusion that his arbitration numbers are where they are.

Plus he probably moved up a tier with the All-Star game appearance and with us changing the player expectations, boom you've got a 10MM man.

[Carlos]

Who the hell is Dave Gotschall?

Though Webb and Gotschall were my only two targets as second (edit: actually it was the first round) round picks (Webb was around and taken and Gotschall stuck around till the third, to my surprise), I will never pretend I expected Gotschall to be ranked so highly by OSA.

I thought he was a steal for the third round. But, at least when it comes to ranking prospects, it's looking like highway robbery.

But I see him as a Goodhart clone so I'm not convinced. Goodhart pitched great in AAA and that never really translated. That being said, if Gotschall wants to continue improving, I'm all for it. He's only 17 (drafted at 16) so his velocity should only increase with time.

[mike]

Though Webb and Gotschall were my only two targets as second (edit: actually it was the first round) round picks (Webb was around and taken and Gotschall stuck around till the third, to my surprise), I will never pretend I expected Gotschall to be ranked so highly by OSA.

I thought he was a steal for the third round. But, at least when it comes to ranking prospects, it's looking like highway robbery.

But I see him as a Goodhart clone so I'm not convinced. Goodhart pitched great in AAA and that never really translated. That being said, if Gotschall wants to continue improving, I'm all for it. He's only 17 (drafted at 16) so his velocity should only increase with time.

OSA thinks he could look similarly to AJ Hightower but thats with them projective big time velo bumps

[PaulC]

Lowball

I thought the offer was fair, but clearly the arbitrator thought I lowballed. Expensive lesson learned.

[Ryan]

I thought the offer was fair, but clearly the arbitrator thought I lowballed. Expensive lesson learned.

Per his Arbitration history, his number this year isn't out of line too much, given he bounces back to his last couple years production. If he plays like he did last year, eh...

Remember, during arbitration, players get a raise every year. They'll never get less than what they got the year before, but they'll always get more. I believe they're guaranteed a raise of 'X' percent at the very minimum, more depending on comparable players stats and service time.

[PaulC]

That's good to know. No more low offers from California!

[liquidcrash]

I think I lost every arbitration case this year, and I barely touched the default offers the game suggested. I don't think I've ever had that happen before.

But, looking forward to the season starting. I'm a bit confused as to how one of my A-level players came down with an "Undisclosed injury" during Spring Training. Guess that'll just remain a mystery.

Owner thinks we should win it all.

[Pat]

Owner thinks we should win it all.

I do too.

[Sharkn20]

Ours expect us to have a .500 season, we will try to be over. 500

If an injury occurs I will start to call my youngsters up to make their feet wet!

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