2014 Brewmasters SIM 1 Complete - Next SIM Sun 1/3

[PaulC]

Thanks Matt!

[Carlos]

All kinds of rookie owner mistakes here. In utilizing the offering tools I think I pissed off Viny Flores and Tom Churchill. I thought they would automatically resign, but I guess they'll no longer negotiate. Not sure if I can still trade them or if I am just screwed. If I'm screwed they can be traded for, or not, just not sure. Or I will try to resign them again. Aagghhh!

Waiting for help?!

Both Churchill and Flores are arbitration eligible.

They aren't going anywhere.

I'm not sure how deep into the rules you've gotten but a quick snippet on how things work:

Players are the property of a BLB team for five to six full seasons. It's less than six if they are Super 2 players but you don't have to get into the whys or whatever. Just know that when a player says "Arbitration Eligible" they can't go anywhere unless you decide on your own to withdraw an arbitration offer, effectively releasing your hold on their rights.

In this league, we are not allowed to offer a player a contract extension until they have gone through at least ONE arbitration period. In the case of Churchill and Flores, they have both had two arbitration periods.

You can see this by looking at their player card and seeing "Received a 1-year contract worth a total of $2,500,000 through arbitration."

So you have the right (meaning you always had the opportunity but because of league specific rules, you wouldn't have the right to do so until after the first arbitration period) now to offer them an extension. You did during the season as well. Your decision when you want to.

Both players could be unhappy with your extension offer and tell you they won't discuss a negotiation, but they won't be going anywhere. Looking at the financial report screen, Churchill is expected to make about $14.4 MM in 2015 and Flores $9.8 MM.

Go to the Arbitration Screen so you can change these numbers and click "Change" (Do not click Withdraw unless you want that player to become a free agent. Remember what I said before).

The trick here is figuring out what number would help you win the arbitration case. You have no idea what the player will ask for. If someone knows a formula for figuring this out, please share because I don't have any idea what it is. So you go in blind with an offer. If you go too low, the player will almost always win because the arbiter will rule in their favor. If you go too high, you'll definitely win but be locked in at that price. The number you see on the screen (as well as the financial report screens) is an estimate. It's not final and you don't know how much lower you might be able to go.

Hopefully that helps. No matter what, Churchill and Flores are not going anywhere for now.

[fsquid]

Moon won't resign for me either, there goes my 1-2 punch in the rotation.

[PaulC]

Thanks!

Thanks for clarifying. I thought that was the case. I was sure I knew the rules (I thought ), I think the mechanics of the actual game just had me doubting.

[Sharkn20]

I thought we are not able to offer an extension until the end of their arbitration period (last year eligible) to avoid Clown kind of contracts. .

Am I right?

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[mike]

I thought we are not able to offer an extension until the end of their arbitration period (last year eligible) to avoid Clown kind of contracts. .

Am I right?

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Wouldn't mind some clarification on this

[Z]

They are explicitly ineligible for extensions at the present time according to league rules.

Any extensions would be voided.

[BDub]

I thought there was a new rule that staded a player now has to go through more than one arbitration period.

[Sharkn20]

Wouldn't mind some clarification on this

We were discussing about it hust before Clown decided to step down as a result of the league complaining about his extensions and when did happen, I can't find the Topic though :(

Maybe Matt / Bradz will throw some light in here

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[Carlos]

The new rule is: No contact extensions allowed before 3rd arbitration contact.

[Matt]

Carlos is correct. All rules can be found in the rules HTML under the BLB drop down. Contracts is #14. They must have 3 "player received xxxxx through arbitration" in their player history before extensions are allowed.

http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/blb/html/rules.html

[Matt]

CONTRACTS
If Team Option is used the Buyout must be the difference between Option year and highest Guaranteed year.

Only one Team Option may be used per contract, and it must be in the last year of the contract. This prevents people from stacking Player Options after the Team Option.

Players cannot be signed to contract extensions until after they have received their third arbitration contract. Players become eligible for contract extensions once they have three "Received a 1-year contract worth a total of $xx through arbitration." in their player history.

[Matt]

Rules can also be found in the Rule Changes sub forum.

http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/foru...splay.php?f=98

[Hank]

Carlos is correct. All rules can be found in the rules HTML under the BLB drop down. Contracts is #14. They must have 3 "player received xxxxx through arbitration" in their player history before extensions are allowed.

http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/blb/html/rules.html

Nuts. I didn't know this.
Thought it was allowed after they've gone through arbitration at least 1 time.

Please kill the contract extension I offered Ontiveros.
He's only been thru the process 1x so far.

[BDub]

The new rule is: No contact extensions allowed before 3rd arbitration contact.

Ok. Thought I was missing something.