2011 Hall of Fame Voting

[funclown]

Looking at the HOF voting, pretty much everyone.

I rarely look at that component by itself.

[Ryan]

I don't know, if anyone is looking at one stat or whatever to tell them a player should be HOF worthy, that just seems lazy. Not saying anyone is, but I really don't think you can. I really think you need to factor in stats, place in the game relative to peers of their generation, awards, etc.

And as far as the longevity thing goes, for Noah and his 2800 hits for example, I think it means something in this league. With the fallout we experience from version to version, I think there's something to be said for a guy that can rack up those kind of stats. I think he belongs. He's not the elite of the HOF, but he belongs in there. I view him as one of the best middle infielders the BLB has seen.

[Carlos]

Regardless, Hightower was one of the five or so best pitchers in the Domestic League — as the Pale Ale voting supports — despite him being left off the All-Star team.

Same thing for Bafford. He's top five in Stout Slugger voting.

Yeah, but assuming Bafford continues hitting the way he does, it won't matter what his ASG appearances looks like.

Same with Hightower.

I think you guys are putting too much stock in a simple comment that wasn't meant to suggest you only vote based on All Star Games. That would be like suggesting you should only vote based on OPS.

[Z]

I don't know, if anyone is looking at one stat or whatever to tell them a player should be HOF worthy, that just seems lazy. Not saying anyone is, but I really don't think you can. I really think you need to factor in stats, place in the game relative to peers of their generation, awards, etc.

And as far as the longevity thing goes, for Noah and his 2800 hits for example, I think it means something in this league. With the fallout we experience from version to version, I think there's something to be said for a guy that can rack up those kind of stats. I think he belongs. He's not the elite of the HOF, but he belongs in there. I view him as one of the best middle infielders the BLB has seen.

Yeah, but assuming Bafford continues hitting the way he does, it won't matter what his ASG appearances looks like.

Same with Hightower.

I think you guys are putting too much stock in a simple comment that wasn't meant to suggest you only vote based on All Star Games. That would be like suggesting you should only vote based on OPS.

I'm with both of you guys.

[Matt]

Vote away...

Washington
LAD
New Orleans

So far we'll welcome Bayer, Morgan, Black, Haynes, and Carbajal.

Chamissa and Kybota need one more vote. Scott and Durham need two. Four players need all three.

[Delandis]

Can we talk about lowering the % to remain on the ballot? Maybe 50%.

[Z]

Blah.

[Matt]

Can we talk about lowering the % to remain on the ballot? Maybe 50%.

It will be at 40%.

Blah.

Five in, nine have a good chance, a possibility of 13...not bad for the first year with vets.

[Spear]

FYI - I have 22 players on my ballot.

[BDub]

When does voting close?

[funclown]

Can we talk about lowering the % to remain on the ballot? Maybe 50%.

Completely agree!!!!!!!

[Matt]

At the end of the year.

[BradZ]

Can we talk about lowering the % to remain on the ballot? Maybe 50%.

Totally agree about discussing lowering, but the % to remain on the ballot has always been 50% in the past.

[Delandis]

Totally agree about discussing lowering, but the % to remain on the ballot has always been 50% in the past.

Oh. I thought it was 75%. Then it needs to be even lower than 50%.

We need to keep more of these older players on the ballot so that we can see their accomplishments in relation to the newer candidates. 35-40% is probably better.

[Pat]

28 on my ballot.

I would like to make the case for Mike Murdock going forward but I think it's going to fall on deaf ears. Like Matt said, people make cases for players year after year and they very rarely sway voters. Murdock is a 50/50 guy. Half of voters think he is HOF. Half do not.