2009 Regular Season SIM 22 Complete - Next SIM Saturday 12/27

[BradZ]

Yeah, I noticed how odd it is too. But again, we know who the old players that dominated the list were, mostly.

I often wonder how their performance impacted others when the game tries to keep things balanced during development.

I also think one of the reasons we are seeing weaker drafts is because we had too many good ones and now the game needs to balance the universe. My theory.

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I've always thought/felt Doug Miles ended up with the career numbers that he did because of Pancho.

[Carlos]

I've always thought/felt Doug Miles ended up with the career numbers that he did because of Pancho.

If you remember, I use to complain about Pancho being the only true ace in the game. It never made sense as MLB always has about ten guys you want with the ball. During Pancho's reign, no one came close to truly dominant seasons.

Now look at guys like Tom Schuh, Neubauer, Lippert, etc.

From 1991 through 1999 when Pancho was dominating the league, it was routine to see maybe 2-3 guys including Pancho have ERAs lower than 2.50 (yes, I'm using ERA for this argument).

Now, it's typical to see 5-6.

In fact, usually only 6-7 guys had ERAs under 3.00. Now, at least 10 guys do over the course of the season.

And before 1991...yep, at least 10 guys would have ERAs under 3.00

Pancho affected other pitchers in ways we can only guess.

[Jake]

If you remember, I use to complain about Pancho being the only true ace in the game. It never made sense as MLB always has about ten guys you want with the ball. During Pancho's reign, no one came close to truly dominant seasons.

Now look at guys like Tom Schuh, Neubauer, Lippert, etc.

From 1991 through 1999 when Pancho was dominating the league, it was routine to see maybe 2-3 guys including Pancho have ERAs lower than 2.50 (yes, I'm using ERA for this argument).

Now, it's typical to see 5-6.

In fact, usually only 6-7 guys had ERAs under 3.00. Now, at least 10 guys do over the course of the season.

And before 1991...yep, at least 10 guys would have ERAs under 3.00

Pancho affected other pitchers in ways we can only guess.

No one remembers because no one listens to you.

[funclown]

If you remember, I use to complain about Pancho being the only true ace in the game. It never made sense as MLB always has about ten guys you want with the ball. During Pancho's reign, no one came close to truly dominant seasons.

Now look at guys like Tom Schuh, Neubauer, Lippert, etc.

From 1991 through 1999 when Pancho was dominating the league, it was routine to see maybe 2-3 guys including Pancho have ERAs lower than 2.50 (yes, I'm using ERA for this argument).

Now, it's typical to see 5-6.

In fact, usually only 6-7 guys had ERAs under 3.00. Now, at least 10 guys do over the course of the season.

And before 1991...yep, at least 10 guys would have ERAs under 3.00

Pancho affected other pitchers in ways we can only guess.

The ENTIRE TEAM affected development in so many ways. With all those blue bars on one team and the game trying to balance the players other players had to die. Wasn't goung to be them so........

Andrew once wisely said to us "I'm not sure how far down the rabbit hole we want to go". and I agree 100%

[Jake]

So, today is the first I've heard about this balancing act. Is this a confirmed thing the game does for player development?

[BradZ]

I was talking more from a stats perspective. The game has a very effective engine of balancing league wide, aggregate stats. When a few other worldly stars tip the balance those numbers tend to come at the expense of others.

[Jake]

That's really interesting. I didn't know that.

[Carlos]

I was talking more from a stats perspective. The game has a very effective engine of balancing league wide, aggregate stats. When a few other worldly stars tip the balance those numbers tend to come at the expense of others.

This.

Was trying to avoid talking about development and just mention stats.

Though if the stats can affect development, I'm not sure, but probably?

I only mention the draft in the same way I wonder if the game will create better catchers when the position is soft. There has to be some way the game checks for the league to have balance at all positions so you don't have a draft or league of just 1B by random chance.

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[funclown]

I only mention the draft in the same way I wonder if the game will create better catchers when the position is soft. There has to be some way the game checks for the league to have balance at all positions so you don't have a draft or league of just 1B by random chance.

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Has to be some truth to that. I remember in the midish 90s some great pitching classes came out at a time when some nasty lumber roamed the BLB. Well runs per game began to drop then early 00s every super OF and catcher known to man showed up. Lately past few drafts have switched to pitching heavy.

Time frames could be off, but it's just observation.

[Carlos]

Has to be some truth to that. I remember in the midish 90s some great pitching classes came out at a time when some nasty lumber roamed the BLB. Well runs per game began to drop then early 00s every super OF and catcher known to man showed up. Lately past few drafts have switched to pitching heavy.

Time frames could be off, but it's just observation.

We have a lot of good outfielders.
Outside of the few catchers and one Dave Nelson, every player in the Top 20 plays outfield. (Quinn is really an OFer I assigned to 1B).

That's crazy. Not one 1B or 3B. There was a time nearly every good run producer was a 1B.

Edit: apologies to Chiba.

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[funclown]

Speaking of lumber, has anyone looked at the DL "qualified rookie" hitters??

Too bad I brought up LF Ron Harward this season. Poor guy has hit at least a home run in every week since getting the call.

Crack.

[Carlos]

No one remembers because no one listens to you.

Not even a thank you for wanting to make sure your prized hitter wasn't being jerked by the game.

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[mike]

Speaking of lumber, has anyone looked at the DL "qualified rookie" hitters??

Too bad I brought up LF Ron Harward this season. Poor guy has hit at least a home run in every week since getting the call.

Crack.

Where can I find this stat? I'm still new!

[funclown]

Where can I find this stat? I'm still new!

In game, STATS/Leaders, sort by league and also qualified rookies

[mike]

In game, STATS/Leaders, sort by league and also qualified rookies

Thanks!