2007 Playoffs SIM 2 (WC2) SIM Complete - Next SIM Tuesday 08/12

[Pat]

That's what happens when you lose to Virginia, get mad, trade all your players away, then have 5 1st round picks.

Not sure how real honorable that is. That's why you and Delandis are better managers. You never rebuild.

I've tried to rebuild a few times...but it's not easy. Look at the trade block right now. Is anyone a buyer in the off-season? Most "contenders" are at or overbudget. Even teams that have made the playoffs this year or tried, are having to make tough financial decisions this off-season and probably are going to field lesser teams next year.

I don't see any dishonor in realizing you weren't going to contend and rebuilding was the best answer. The Washington Bats are going to have a very different look next year...and even further different in 2009. I get a lot of praise, mainly from Funclown, for never rebuilding and always competing but I don't see this run continuing. I'm excited for it.

[funclown]

Not sure how real honorable that is. That's why you and Delandis are better managers. You never rebuild.

Add Letter Z to that list.

Whatever people want out of this game I think people should do. I never had to truly rebuild before so wanted to give it a try. I still remember Gyrodork just basically "drafting" , signing maybe cheap player or two and never trading with me. He did fairly well also.

No real set "template" on this. If there is anything that "might" give you better odds probably just being active.

[funclown]

I get a lot of praise, mainly from Funclown, for never rebuilding and always competing but I don't see this run continuing. I'm excited for it.

You've been to the playoffs fucken 20 times. Sorry think that's pretty good.

Kind of makes it tough to get into a "rebuild" mindset.

[Carlos]

Stop killing puppies and more teams will have to rebuild.

[Delandis]

2007 Playoffs SIM 2 (WC2) SIM Complete - Next SIM Tuesday 08/12

That's what happens when you lose to Virginia, get mad, trade all your players away, then have 5 1st round picks.

Not nsure how real honorable that is. That's why you and Delandis are better managers. You never rebuild.

I think success from a complete rebuild is heavily underrated. Teams can have lots of top picks and still have trouble turning it around. Then to put it all together to win have a chance to win 2/3 is a hell of an accomplishment.

Quite frankly, the only reason I don't do rebuilds is because I'm impatient as hell and I know I'll fuck it up.


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[Pat]

I think success from a complete rebuild is heavily underrated. Teams can have lots of top picks and still have trouble turning it around.

Very true. There are a lot of "teams of the future" in the BLB that never came to fruition.

[Z]

My thoughts exactly. My philosophy is to give ourselves a solid chance every season when possible.

[fsquid]

I had to blow mine up due to my foolishness as a newbie to the OOTP14 engine. I would like to not do that again.

[Jistic]

I wanted to do one total rebuild, but I'll never do it again if possible.

[Z]

I've never initiated a total rebuild.

I began Philly with one because our (auto) inaugural draft was so bad we lost 104 games the first season and we had nothing to build on.

I took over a Pittsburgh club coming off a 108 loss season and got them up to 87 wins in my fourth year.

I know how rebuilds work, but I haven't actively chosen to do it.

[Carlos]

Trust me, if you can avoid a rebuild, avoid the rebuild.

It sucks. It's a long process. It takes a couple real life years out of you when you're constantly looking at 1-5 and 0-6 sims.

And like someone said, there's no guarantee it will even matter.

The only benefit is I know this team will be better than it was during any time it was waiting for these picks to develop.

But here's the thing people forget about rebuilds:

It's one thing to rebuild from 50 wins to 80 wins.

It's another challenge to go from 80 wins to 95.

And then if you get to 95, the effort it takes to retain that level of performance is harder than rebuilding. Rebuilding is just about losing and patience. Actually building a playoff contender is about finding the right extra pieces, working your budget, finding guys late in the draft, making the right trade (ie: not giving away the wrong player when you have a gluttony of a position) to win 90+ games and hopefully win a title.

[Z]

It's one thing to rebuild from 50 wins to 80 wins.

It's another challenge to go from 80 wins to 95.

And then if you get to 95, the effort it takes to retain that level of performance is harder than rebuilding. Rebuilding is just about losing and patience. Actually building a playoff contender is about finding the right extra pieces, working your budget, finding guys late in the draft, making the right trade (ie: not giving away the wrong player when you have a gluttony of a position) to win 90+ games and hopefully win a title.

I appreciate your description. I like to think I practice those skills every season.

[funclown]

And then if you get to 95, the effort it takes to retain that level of performance is harder than rebuilding. Rebuilding is just about losing and patience. Actually building a playoff contender is about finding the right extra pieces, working your budget, finding guys late in the draft, making the right trade (ie: not giving away the wrong player when you have a gluttony of a position) to win 90+ games and hopefully win a title.

I'll confess, after 8 playoff appearances and goin 0-3 in the Brewmaster I sort of needed a mental rest. It can get frustrating watching players underperform, strange periods when nothing goes right and the outlandish rash of injuries just took its toll.

As for rebuilding , our last retool was our test for seeing how we draft. Granted a lot were traded but watching Lona, Wyatt, JMontalbo and other non first rounders perform we feel good about our chances. Have to wait and see I guess.