SIM COMPLETE - 01-02 - OFF-SEASON 2

[Delandis]

As Clay mentioned, I lost one of the better all-around catchers in BLB history to the Rule V draft due to forgetting to export and I just had to accept it and move on. It happens.

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This is a very sensitive subject to Linty.

[spot]

I agree that it sucks under the "for the good of the league" but exporting fixes it. Its why I give people time, reminders and the opportunity to use me to help them if they cant get on.

Every offseason I post the "still in" thread to give people a clean out. I say everytime that youre better off leaving and coming back than not having time.

Sucks.

But... Cali lost Phillips back in the day....others have lost talent...it is what it unfortunately is.

Right, umd not Jimmy. But as I stated exporting doesn't always fix it. I exported and you didn't gat an error that I know of. But I had a guy placed on the 40-man and then somehow moved to DFA and unprotected. If exporting fixes it then what happened there? Nothing to be done, I get it bit it's not simply a case of pay attention or else.

[Dave]

Right, umd not Jimmy. But as I stated exporting doesn't always fix it. I exported and you didn't gat an error that I know of. But I had a guy placed on the 40-man and then somehow moved to DFA and unprotected. If exporting fixes it then what happened there? Nothing to be done, I get it bit it's not simply a case of pay attention or else.

Maybe in this case, the answer is exporting and then submitting a list of who you think you've moved to the 40-man? And then if Clay notices that people on your list aren't protected following the sim and you have room, he moves them to the 40-man himself?

Still doesn't fix the case of not exporting though....

[spot]

Maybe in this case, the answer is exporting and then submitting a list of who you think you've moved to the 40-man? And then if Clay notices that people on your list aren't protected following the sim and you have room, he moves them to the 40-man himself?

Still doesn't fix the case of not exporting though....

Sure. As a work around it's fine until you look at how it impact's Clay's involvement in the simming process.

It shouldn't be neccesary and I don't think it's fair to do to him.

Also, we see that umd didn't export for this sim but he states that he set everything up the last sim. If he did and this same glitch happened then the "didn't export" tag doesn't really apply (unless you use the "had an opportunity to discover it" arguement...).

Again, not sure if there is a fix but I was simply pointing out that the game isn't 100% reliable and to lose a player like Neal is clearly a big deal.

[umd]

I protected everyone and thought I exported.

[Z]

Maybe in this case, the answer is exporting and then submitting a list of who you think you've moved to the 40-man? And then if Clay notices that people on your list aren't protected following the sim and you have room, he moves them to the 40-man himself?

Still doesn't fix the case of not exporting though....

The real fix is not waiting until the last sim to do this. We've had almost a dozen sims in the last couple weeks with little else for people to do but offer extensions and protect Rule V guys.

[umd]

I protected everyone before the last sim anyway. I don't understand why he was available.

[Clay]

I protected everyone before the last sim anyway. I don't understand why he was available.

Which we see...

Placed 2B Ted McGuire on the 40-man roster.
Placed CL Ian Stewart on the 40-man roster.
Placed 1B Colin Anderson on the 40-man roster.
Placed LF Joey Wilkinson on the 40-man roster.
Released MR Ral Hernndez.
Placed MR Chip Carver on the 40-man roster.
Placed MR Chip Carver on the active roster.

But, I have to assume you missed him.

[umd]

I guess, just replace me. I'll step down. It's not even worth arguing over something this shitty.

[Clay]

Right, umd not Jimmy. But as I stated exporting doesn't always fix it. I exported and you didn't gat an error that I know of. But I had a guy placed on the 40-man and then somehow moved to DFA and unprotected. If exporting fixes it then what happened there? Nothing to be done, I get it bit it's not simply a case of pay attention or else.

You've been a Commish, so you know. If I have a file from you from the right version of the file (date)... I get a clean message. If I get an error message, I check it against the export tracker. If it appears a team exported, I manually import.

I've looked up and down the OOTP boards and I'm not seeing any reported issue s with players being moved off of the 40 man. They'd have to clear waivers for it to happen organically which would be reflected in the news/history.

If we're having a snowflake issue in the OOTP universe, I wouldn't know how to start to deal with it, but, unfortunately, just accepting it as a problem and moving on is basically saying let's scrap the Rule V. Which I'm fine with, but it couldn't happen this season anyway. If someone wants to start a poll, we can implement next year.

[Clay]

I guess, just replace me. I'll step down. It's not even worth arguing over something this shitty.

Who is arguing?

[umd]

Who is arguing?

It would be me. But I'm not going to. Like I said, feel free to replace me. I'll just step aside.

[Clay]

It would be me. But I'm not going to. Like I said, feel free to replace me. I'll just step aside.

I don't know what feel free to replace me or I'll just step aside means. If you're dropping out, that's your call. Please be clear though and don't imply that someone is looking to replace you or you're being asked to step aside.

[umd]

I don't know what feel free to replace me or I'll just step aside means. If you're dropping out, that's your call. Please be clear though and don't imply that someone is looking to replace you or you're being asked to step aside.

There you go.

http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/foru...041#post190041

[spot]

You've been a Commish, so you know. If I have a file from you from the right version of the file (date)... I get a clean message. If I get an error message, I check it against the export tracker. If it appears a team exported, I manually import.

I've looked up and down the OOTP boards and I'm not seeing any reported issue s with players being moved off of the 40 man. They'd have to clear waivers for it to happen organically which would be reflected in the news/history.

If we're having a snowflake issue in the OOTP universe, I wouldn't know how to start to deal with it, but, unfortunately, just accepting it as a problem and moving on is basically saying let's scrap the Rule V. Which I'm fine with, but it couldn't happen this season anyway. If someone wants to start a poll, we can implement next year.

Absolutely. I am not faulting anyone or the process in this case. What I am pointing out is that something happened during the sim (at least in my case, if you believe the transaction history of Los Alamos) and while I am not losing any sleep over this I just wanted to call attention that it happened. If umd failed to export, didn't check what stuck and the history doesn't jive with what he thought he did then so be it.

Just saw it and thought it might be similar to what happened with Neal. Maybe it isn't.