*OFFICIAL* 1997 Awards Voting

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Duarte already leading in ROY voting?

C'mon guys Maekawa has a much better WAR. Two full games plus he can play anywhere in the infield well, not tucked away in right.

Do the right thing thing and give Maekawa the trophy he has earned.

Nothing to see here...

Duarte lead the league in HR, TB, and ISO. And let's not forget the all important Sacifice Flies!

Not to mention a few more top 5 appearances. If it wasn't for Duarte we STILL wouldn't have made the playoffs!

[Pat]

Maekawa didn't even make my ballot. He's #4 on a long list of good IL rookies.

For Duarte to have those power numbers (37 HR, 119 RBI) is almost unheard of in our league for a rookie. He gets my first place vote going away. Second, I voted Betts. He had almost 100+ better OPS while playing for the worst team in the IL. He was really the only reason to even pay attention to California this year. Third, I went with Keifer. Wilmington was above .500 this season for the first time since 1989! Keifer was the best pitcher on the staff and had pretty impressive numbers all things considered.

Maekawa is a good player, an even better "find," but he isn't the rookie of the year. He plays on an offensive juggernaut with guys like Knight, Kubota, Gremades, etc. You benefit a lot from hitting on that team. Just ask Colt Guinane.

Also, I can't remember the last time one Bat didn't get a vote. Clarence Ortiz is probably my best shot, but he was probably 4th or 5th best RP this year. Tough year in D.C. all around.

[Delandis]

Wow. So you decided he didn't deserve to win because we were good?

That's insane.

[Pat]

Wow. So you decided he didn't deserve to win because we were good?

That's insane.

I just think the other three guys had better years. Like I said, he would have been #4 on my rankings.

[Delandis]

I just think the other three guys had better years. Like I said, he would have been #4 on my rankings.

That's understandable. But I am surprised because I thought you put a lot of weight on WAR from our convo earlier this year about him and Kelly.

[Pat]

That's understandable. But I am surprised because I thought you put a lot of weight on WAR from our convo earlier this year about him and Kelly.

I was just talking trash to pimp one of my own players.

Speaking of Kelly, he had a pretty damn good year. His .247 average and .740 OPS aren't all-world or anything but the dude put up some solid numbers in a pitchers park and the 4th worst team in baseball. 18 homers, 82 RBI and I'm pretty sure he is going to win the DWI for 2B.

If Kelly (LH hitter) plays for Baltimore in 1997, he is hands down the IL ROY.

[Delandis]

Maekawa was #17 amongst ALL batters in WAR and he hit leadoff most of the year. The kid played lights out and was probably the 2nd best leadoff hitter in the league only behind Daly.

[Delandis]

I was just talking trash to pimp one of my own players.

Speaking of Kelly, he had a pretty damn good year. His .247 average and .740 OPS aren't all-world or anything but the dude put up some solid numbers in a pitchers park and the 4th worst team in baseball. 18 homers, 82 RBI and I'm pretty sure he is going to win the DWI for 2B.

If Kelly (LH hitter) plays for Baltimore in 1997, he is hands down the IL ROY.

Maekawa OBP Home: .384
Maekawa OBP Road: .382

Yep. It was definitely the park.

[Pat]

Maekawa OBP Home: .384
Maekawa OBP Road: .382

Yep. It was definitely the park.

Where did I say it was the park?

All I said was if Kelly played for Baltimore, he would have had the best numbers in the IL. In games played at Baltimore, Kelly hit .316 with a 1.013 OPS.

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From this:

For Duarte to have those power numbers (37 HR, 119 RBI) is almost unheard of in our league for a rookie. He gets my first place vote going away.

to this:

If Kelly (LH hitter) plays for Baltimore in 1997, he is hands down the IL ROY.

Man, are you fickle.

[Z]

Agree on losing all those players suck, but your team never really got in a groove this season as in the case New Orleans was on flat out cruise.

Also Scott and Tino.....lets just say aren't Scott and Tino of old. Older teams also tend to get hurt more.

That aside, good season.

Well, sure we never really got in a groove, but that's because we lost five projected opening day starters to injury by May 1.

Suarez and Scott would be more similar to the Suarez and Scott of old if they didn't get dinged up.

Valid point on older teams getting hurt more, but even then, this year was pretty extreme. And most of the guys who got hurt were 30 or younger.

[Delandis]

From this:



to this:




Man, are you fickle.

In the future, I plan to not vote for anymore pitchers that do well in a pitcher's park or because they have other good pitchers on the team. :(

Sorry Gus.

[Clay]

For what it's worth... just my opinion...

I prefer people not discuss who is leading voting categories in this thread (unless you SPOILER TAG it). I'd just hate to see ballots influenced by that type of information. Not saying it would... not saying it does.... just saying.

I love people discussing their personal ballot.... but I'd prefer no updates on the status of the voting.

[Lintyfresh85]

Duarte already leading in ROY voting?

C'mon guys Maekawa has a much better WAR. Two full games plus he can play anywhere in the infield well, not tucked away in right.

Do the right thing thing and give Maekawa the trophy he has earned.

Ed Betts is the best IL rookie. As Pat said, he's the only reason to pay attention to my team. He just didn't have the talent around him to pump up his counting stats.

Qualified IL rookie stats

OBP - 1st
OPS - 1st (by 34 points)
wOBA - 1st (by 23 points)
AVG - 2nd
SLG - 2nd
VORP - 2nd
ISO - 2nd

Vote Ed Betts, his rate stats show he was the best rookie hitter in the IL.

[Clay]

Ed Betts is the best IL rookie. As Pat said, he's the only reason to pay attention to my team. He just didn't have the talent around him to pump up his counting stats.

Qualified IL rookie stats

OBP - 1st
OPS - 1st (by 34 points)
wOBA - 1st (by 23 points)
AVG - 2nd
SLG - 2nd
VORP - 2nd
ISO - 2nd

Vote Ed Betts, his rate stats show he was the best rookie hitter in the IL.

I apologize, Linty, if my membership in the Ed Betts Fan Club hurts his popularity in the league. I know I probably sang his praises more than you did during the season. Love that guy.