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  • Isnt that what we did before? We had a 15 (?) round draft but cut it down to 10 rounds. So now wed have 15 rounds of talent for a six round draft? All you would do is open the door to manipulation of the DFA to more teams than Washington.

    There are tons of draft picks that may or may not get their chance in the league. The problem is that people expect too many draft picks to make it to the BLB.

    If you guys truly want the draft to be more relevant increase injuries and scouting error. I know it would never happen, but that's what is needed to help things go in the direction you guys want.


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    - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
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    • Obviously people are so into the later rounds of the draft that we should consider expanding the number of rounds back to 15.
      Philly Freedom
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      • Originally posted by BradZ View Post
        Obviously people are so into the later rounds of the draft that we should consider expanding the number of rounds back to 15.
        All I'm saying is that, people are so worried about ALL of their draft picks making an impact in the BLB, which is a completely unrealistic expectation.


        Baltimore Bulldogs - BLB since '84
        - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
        - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
        - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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        • Originally posted by Delandis View Post
          All I'm saying is that, people are so worried about ALL of their draft picks making an impact in the BLB, which is a completely unrealistic expectation.
          Understood (and to be clear my comment was more about the owners who have completely checked out of this draft halfway through the 2nd rd).
          Philly Freedom
          Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
          Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
          Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
          IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
          Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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          • 3 Things:

            1) No, we don't create the same # of people as we did at 15.

            2) I don't think people want more guys who make the BLB. I want LESS guys who can't make Single A.

            3) I want to hear more about this magic "increase scouting error" setting.
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            • Originally posted by Clay View Post
              3 Things:

              1) No, we don't create the same # of people as we did at 15.

              2) I don't think people want more guys who make the BLB. I want LESS guys who can't make Single A.

              3) I want to hear more about this magic "increase scouting error" setting.
              I assume he's talking about altering the Scouting Accuracy Setting found on the Global Setup page, under Game Options.
              Philly Freedom
              Owner & GM: 1987 - Pres.
              Porter Div. Champs (Mbr '84-'15): 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2011
              Stout Div. Champs (Mbr '78-'83 & '16-present): 2016, 2017
              IL Wild Card Winner: 1987, 2013, 2018, 2019
              Import League Champs: 1984, 2010, 2017

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              • Originally posted by Clay View Post
                3 Things:

                1) No, we don't create the same # of people as we did at 15.

                2) I don't think people want more guys who make the BLB. I want LESS guys who can't make Single A.

                3) I want to hear more about this magic "increase scouting error" setting.
                If I'm wrong about the # of draftees I apologize. I was under the wrong impression and have been for a long time then. I however, stand firm that shortening the draft IS about the desire to have a higher percentage of "hits" in the draft and nothing more. Finally, I could be wrong again (as I admittedly often am) there was a 'not so magical' global scoting error setting. I'm sure thee was in 9 and 10 (last time I played single player).


                Baltimore Bulldogs - BLB since '84
                - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                • Originally posted by BradZ View Post
                  I assume he's talking about altering the Scouting Accuracy Setting found on the Global Setup page, under Game Options.
                  Accuracy/Error. Two sides of the same coin.


                  Baltimore Bulldogs - BLB since '84
                  - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                  - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                  - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                  • Originally posted by Delandis View Post
                    If I'm wrong about the # of draftees I apologize. I was under the wrong impression and have been for a long time then. I however, stand firm that shortening the draft IS about the desire to have more "hits" in the draft and nothing more. Finally, I could be wrong again (as I admittedly often am) there was a 'not so magical' global scoring error setting. I'm sure thee was in 9 and 10 (last time I played single player).
                    Seeing as how I'm the one bringing up reducing the draft, I feel fairly confident that I know the motivation.

                    MOST 1st Rounders in the feeder era eventually make it

                    MANY 2nd Rounders make the BLB

                    Some 3rd-5ths (inc sandwich) make it...but rarer than before.

                    The 6th-12th (inc sammy) will occasionally land a AAAA and a rare 'Pen guy. But MOST of these guys are lucky to get past Single A.

                    Now, every season we all cut 8-10 of these guys to replace them with 8-10 more of them. Rinse, Repeat.

                    I just don't feel there's any value left after the 6th. The guys would still be there and guys can sign them. But do they really need to be drafted?
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                    • Originally posted by BradZ View Post
                      I assume he's talking about altering the Scouting Accuracy Setting found on the Global Setup page, under Game Options.
                      That's global though. It would impact every level. No one would ever want that. It would completely change the league.
                      The Great One!

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                      • Originally posted by Clay View Post
                        Sounds like work.
                        I will not be silenced!


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                        • Originally posted by Clay View Post
                          Seeing as how I'm the one bringing up reducing the draft, I feel fairly confident that I know the motivation.

                          MOST 1st Rounders in the feeder era eventually make it

                          MANY 2nd Rounders make the BLB

                          Some 3rd-5ths (inc sandwich) make it...but rarer than before.

                          The 6th-12th (inc sammy) will occasionally land a AAAA and a rare 'Pen guy. But MOST of these guys are lucky to get past Single A.

                          Now, every season we all cut 8-10 of these guys to replace them with 8-10 more of them. Rinse, Repeat.

                          I just don't feel there's any value left after the 6th. The guys would still be there and guys can sign them. But do they really need to be drafted?
                          In that case, why do we even have minors and or feeder leagues? Get rid of feeder leagues, add ghost players and problem solved.

                          You points only brings me back to the idea that our league needs more scouting error(less accuracy). Add more error and early draft picks become less valuable but the chance for success in later rounds increases.


                          Baltimore Bulldogs - BLB since '84
                          - Porter Champs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12
                          - Playoffs: '92, '93, '97, '98, '99, '01, '03, '06, '08, '12, '13, '14, '15, '16
                          - Brewmaster's Cup: '01

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                          • Originally posted by Delandis View Post
                            Add more error and early draft picks become less valuable but the chance for success in later rounds increases.
                            I think we are witnessing some wide scouting opinions in this draft. Maybe its a one year thing or a change its a version change to OOTP 12. I don't think we should do anything until we've had a few seasons under our belt.
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                            • There's some top players drafted 6th round or later in our league. Also I agree about the scouting in 12. Feels different. I think we're gonna have some more late round gems. Will take years to find out though.
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                              • Originally posted by Delandis View Post
                                In that case, why do we even have minors and or feeder leagues? Get rid of feeder leagues, add ghost players and problem solved.

                                You points only brings me back to the idea that our league needs more scouting error(less accuracy). Add more error and early draft picks become less valuable but the chance for success in later rounds increases.
                                Ahhhh...but you're making the opposite point...

                                What were doing NOW is what negates the whole minors, feeder, development thing. When most guys drafted after the 5th last season will be cut this season to make room for the next class, they're never being given the chance to develop. Less late picks is better for the concept of the minors because you can legitimately attempt to develop.
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