1994 BLB Amateur Draft

[liquidcrash]

I was going to take Zimmerman with my pick if he was there. Easily the best player left, and it would have let me pick 3 players from the same team. Only reason I didn't pick him to start round was that I didn't really want to pick another catcher, going completely against my usual 'best player available' strategy.

I got Ian Prentice with my most recent pick. Nothing special here. I think he's the best SP still on the board.

[Delandis]

Once again Linty gets a guy I really like.... this was the last guy in the draft that I saw as top tier potential talent.

I was going to take Zimmerman with my pick if he was there. Easily the best player left, and it would have let me pick 3 players from the same team.

I swear, sometimes I feel like we are playing a completely different game at times.

[Clay]

I have the #2 farm system in the BLB

I have the #1 farm system in the BLB

I swear, sometimes I feel like we are playing a completely different game at times.

Fixed

[Delandis]

Fixed

Yep.

You really have to watch out for those stars that Virginia produces from late draft picks.

[Clay]

Yep.

You really have to watch out for those stars that Virginia produces from late draft picks.

Who needs late? I probably have more quality players from the 2nd than most people have from the 1st. Hitting a 1 in a 1000 10th rounder (though I have hit late ones) is meaningless. Hitting your 1st - 3rds has value. Plus, I've traded away more great players that I've drafted than a lot of people have had period.

[Delandis]

Who needs late?

You do. That's where all the bullpen players come from.

[Carlos]

Zing!

Not too happy with my draft. Ending up with a lot of the poor man's versions of the guys I really wanted. Last year, I really wanted the guys I ended up drafting in the first five rounds. This year, just settling.

[Clay]

You do. That's where all the bullpen players come from.

Had 'em. Had to cut them because all my picks hit and push me over the CAP.

[Delandis]

Had 'em. Had to cut them because all my picks hit and push me over the CAP.

I looked through your trades and drafts this morning.

I'll give you best trading GM. And seriously, you have gotten to where you are by repeatedly raping Pittsburgh for their own guys. Genius.

But drafting well 1-3 is fine. The numbers show that most of us do that relatively well. You've just had more opportunities to do so through shrewd trades. Kudos for that.

However, true drafting ability lies in getting talent in the later rounds.

[Clay]

I looked through your trades and drafts this morning.

I'll give you best trading GM. And seriously, you have gotten to where you are by repeatedly raping Pittsburgh for their own guys. Genius.

But drafting well 1-3 is fine. The numbers show that most of us do that relatively well. You've just had more opportunities to do so through shrewd trades. Kudos for that.

However, true drafting ability lies in getting talent in the later rounds.

BS - True drafting ability in the BLB comes from hitting the 2nd and 3rd Rounders consistently because the 4th+ rounders that become significant contributors are the exception, not the rule AND people miss on 2nd and 3rd Rounders more often than you'd think.

Say what you will, believe what you need to, a search what you can... but the numbers don't lie.... I have 5 guys on the TOP PLAYERS and 8 GUYS on the BA TOP PROSPECTS that I drafted still with my Organization....plus a smattering of guys I hit that play elsewhere (e.g. Raul Gonzalez in Indy that I took in the 6th Round).

All that being said... in the end it's largely a crap shoot... and as I've said before.... I'm really good at this game.... but I should be because I probably spend more time with it than anyone else in the league. That's not a brag... it's sad really. I run hundreds of Single Player seasons every year just to "study" how the game works.

[ahounsell]

Maine 4th Round Draft Pick

I can't get into the draft room again. Maine selects RF Danny Gonzalez. I have sent a pm to Clay but he's just gone offline.

Alan

[Delandis]

BS - True drafting ability in the BLB comes from hitting the 2nd and 3rd Rounders consistently because the 4th+ rounders that become significant contributors are the exception, not the rule AND people miss on 2nd and 3rd Rounders more often than you'd think.

That is BS. I consistently get BLB contributors in 3+ rounds. My first BLB draft was '84. I've have at least 10 players that were drafted in the 4th round or later that are on BLB rosters right now.

1984 4.BAL:Carlos Pena (MR)-Baltimore
1984 8.BAL: Jeremiah Alexander (C)-Pawtucket
1986 5.BAL: Zack Murphy (MR)-Mississippi
1986 7.BAL: Raul Reyes (MR)- Davenport
1987 7.BAL: Joaquin Martinez (MR/SP)-Maine
1988 4.BAL: Pleun Schuilenberg (MR)- Hyundai
1988 7.BAL: Dani Salcido (SP)-Baltimore
1988 9.BAL: Dave Lock (MR)-Dallas
1990:4.BAL: Don Morgan (OF)-Denver
1990:5.BAL: Brad Antell (SS)-Baltimore
1991:5.BAL: Franklin Cruz(MR)-Washington

Those are only the major contributors that have been drafted and that's only Baltimore. There are even more shrewd drafting GM's that I'm sure do better than I do.

You've convinced yourself that the only way to get players is to draft early and often. That's fine, its a strategy that has worked well for you. However, it isn't the only successful way to draft in this league.

[funclown]

Just something from the old days of OOTP. A successful draft year over year.

%= Makes it at the major league level.

First Round: 100%. Like to get your impact here two out of three years, but MUST contribute to the majors.

Second Round: 75%. Impact from this round one out of every 4 years.

Third/ Fourth Round 50%. Any impact players from here on out is a bonus.

5th thru 10th: 17%. Basically you hope one player in these rounds makes it.


I was going to write up the history of Pawtucket first rounders just haven't had the time. Had some really good hits to along with some horrible ones.

[Dave]

That is BS. I consistently get BLB contributors in 3+ rounds. My first BLB draft was '84. I've have at least 10 players that were drafted in the 4th round or later that are on BLB rosters right now.

1984 4.BAL:Carlos Pena (MR)-Baltimore
1984 8.BAL: Jeremiah Alexander (C)-Pawtucket
1986 5.BAL: Zack Murphy (MR)-Mississippi
1986 7.BAL: Raul Reyes (MR)- Davenport
1987 7.BAL: Joaquin Martinez (MR/SP)-Maine
1988 4.BAL: Pleun Schuilenberg (MR)- Hyundai
1988 7.BAL: Dani Salcido (SP)-Baltimore
1988 9.BAL: Dave Lock (MR)-Dallas
1990:4.BAL: Don Morgan (OF)-Denver
1990:5.BAL: Brad Antell (SS)-Baltimore
1991:5.BAL: Franklin Cruz(MR)-Washington

Those are only the major contributors that have been drafted and that's only Baltimore. There are even more shrewd drafting GM's that I'm sure do better than I do.

You've convinced yourself that the only way to get players is to draft early and often. That's fine, its a strategy that has worked well for you. However, it isn't the only successful way to draft in this league.

You realize, of course, that most of your examples are from back when the scouting of the draft pool varied wildly from team to team. Look at the draft discussion threads these days and compare them with the ones from the old days - all the same players are on everyone's short lists and draft boards these days so finding value beyond the 3rd round is near impossible unless someone just randomly booms. But I do agree with you that if you had good scouting and knew what to look for, you could get late round value back in the day. But not anymore.

[funclown]

Just something from the old days of OOTP. A successful draft year over year.

%= Makes it at the major league level.

First Round: 100%. Like to get your impact here two out of three years, but MUST contribute to the majors.

Second Round: 75%. Impact from this round one out of every 4 years.

Third/ Fourth Round 50%. Any impact players from here on out is a bonus.

5th thru 10th: 17%. Basically you hope one player in these rounds makes it.


I was going to write up the history of Pawtucket first rounders just haven't had the time. Had some really good hits to along with some horrible ones.

Looking at the only part working in Pawtucket, the starting rotation. Pretty decent mix on draft rounds:

Manny Ocampo- 6th, 8pk - PAW
Ignado Snchez- 1st, 9pk - WIL
Ral Guzmn- 9th, 22pk- PHI
Sadao Yoshino- 5th, 10pk- DAL
Don Richmond- 1st, 22pk- LOS
Tommy Lang- inaugural draft so we wont count him.

Like you said, everyone had they're own ideas.