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  • #76
    No wonder I can't win...my scout has him as a 4 contact.

    Let's go Pitt!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Matt View Post
      No wonder I can't win...my scout has him as a 4 contact.

      Let's go Pitt!
      I wish Z were still alive to make the pick.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Matt View Post
        No wonder I can't win...my scout has him as a 4 contact.

        Let's go Pitt!
        He won't hit for average but he will be a run producer.


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        • #79
          Originally posted by BradZ View Post
          I wish Z were still alive to make the pick.
          So mean to the new Owners.... dick.
          The Great One!

          To many rings to count...

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          • #80
            Diesel.... roll over and wake Pittsburgh up. You can spoon later.
            The Great One!

            To many rings to count...

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            • #81
              In defense of Gerard, once three or four of the best arms are already taken, you go with the next best available talent.

              He may not have the stamina, but I can't be picky in my position. Get the best players around (or the ones you think are best) and figure it out afterwards.


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              • #82
                Originally posted by Carlos View Post
                He may not have the stamina, but I can't be picky in my position. Get the best players around and figure it out afterwards.
                ....said Diesel as the bartender announced "Closing Time"
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Clay View Post
                  ....said Diesel as the bartender announced "Closing Time"
                  I agree.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Clay View Post
                    1.4 Carolina Tobs* - Jonathon Burns (SP)
                    Weird situation here... Carolina trades out of #2... picks up a 2nd.... AND gets the #2 Pitcher in the draft in our opinion. However, we can't call it a clear win because I think Carolina sending back a 3rd was too generous from the Tobs. That being said, when all is said and done... the league will be BANANAS for Burns. We think Burns could debut as the #1 Prospect when the list is published.
                    I think the deal is good for me, since I was going to take Burns at #2 had I stuck with that pick. I figured he'd be gone by #4, but that there wasn't a huge gap between him and someone like Vleugel. Going from a 3rd rounder next year to a 2nd this year is good, I think, considering there's an entire round of supplemental picks in between there. Moved down 2 spots, got the guy I was going to pick anyway, and moved up 20 or so spots later.

                    What I like about Burns: He's 18, throws 97-99 MPH, throws 6 pitches (5 that'll be very good), good movement, good control. In terms of potential, I think he's the 2nd best player in the draft (behind Keifer). I'll just have to wait a little bit longer for him to develop.

                    Re: The top prospects list, Keifer is going to be #1. I'd bet almost anything on that. Burns probably just after him.

                    As I've said earlier, I really like Keifer, his potential is awesome. What worries me is that he still gets a '2' for control at this point, a couple months from turning 22. It hasn't been an issue in college, and my scout thinks he'll have great control when it's all said and done, but it'd be my one concern.
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                    • #85
                      Keifer's current control considering what it's expected to be and his performance is weird to me as well.

                      For what it's worth, my scout says his control only reaches a 5. Odd. I think my scout is wrong.


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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by liquidcrash View Post
                        I think the deal is good for me, since I was going to take Burns at #2 had I stuck with that pick. I figured he'd be gone by #4, but that there wasn't a huge gap between him and someone like Vleugel. Going from a 3rd rounder next year to a 2nd this year is good, I think, considering there's an entire round of supplemental picks in between there. Moved down 2 spots, got the guy I was going to pick anyway, and moved up 20 or so spots later.

                        What I like about Burns: He's 18, throws 97-99 MPH, throws 6 pitches (5 that'll be very good), good movement, good control. In terms of potential, I think he's the 2nd best player in the draft (behind Keifer). I'll just have to wait a little bit longer for him to develop.

                        Re: The top prospects list, Keifer is going to be #1. I'd bet almost anything on that. Burns probably just after him.

                        As I've said earlier, I really like Keifer, his potential is awesome. What worries me is that he still gets a '2' for control at this point, a couple months from turning 22. It hasn't been an issue in college, and my scout thinks he'll have great control when it's all said and done, but it'd be my one concern.
                        I think they debut at #1/#2 with Keifer @ 1. I do, however, think it cements Carolina to another season of #1 Org Rank.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Clay View Post
                          I think they debut at #1/#2 with Keifer @ 1. I do, however, think it cements Carolina to another season of #1 Org Rank.
                          Which is about as important as Pawtucket's regular season.
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                          Originally posted by fsquid
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Clay View Post

                            1.2 Baltimore Bulldogs* - Derek Vleugel (SP)
                            Baltimore trades their 2nd (gets back a 3rd) to grab International star Vleugel. A definite TOP 5 pitcher in this draft and we project him at Top 20 on the BA Top Prospects list from jump street. HOWEVER, our scouts do not see him at #2.
                            Can only go by what my scout says and he didn't love Burns' control or Coates' movement. Both Burns and Vleugel played "average" competition, but Vleugel just put up insane numbers. Also, Derek is "durable" according to my scout. Personally, I just think Vleugel had a slighty higher upside compared to Burns, but in all actuality, its really the development in minors what makes or breaks a guy.


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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by elprez98 View Post
                              Can only go by what my scout says and he didn't love Burns' control or Coates' movement. Both Burns and Vleugel played "average" competition, but Vleugel just put up insane numbers. Also, Derek is "durable" according to my scout. Personally, I just think Vleugel had a slighty higher upside compared to Burns, but in all actuality, its really the development in minors what makes or breaks a guy.
                              Pretty much agree. I've soured a little on INT players in the feeder era. They're SUPER slow to develop and (in my personal case) they seem more prone to disappear in the minors. That factors into my take on Burns being a better pick.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Clay View Post
                                de Luna is the 2nd best bat in this draft (IMO)
                                Stuff like this - and I'm not saying you're wrong - blows my mind. I have de Luna with a 4 for contact and a couple 6's. Even if he reaches my scout's potential, he's at best a glorified Larry Headington. But, I'm guessing others are seeing something I'm not. It's just still troubling to me that there's such discrepancy amongst scouts in the top 10-15 picks of the draft.
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